440: Overcome Fear with Kristen Ulmer
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Lucas Rockwood
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🗓️ 2 December 2020
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Overcome Fear
with Kristen Ulmer
Extreme skiing is defined by an ever-present risk of death. It’s a sport that demands a deep relationship and acceptance of fear. An avalanche can bury you, a deadly fall down a sheer rock wall is just one wrong turn away, and there are times when the only chance of survival is from an emergency airlift to safety.
Why would you do this?
The answer is, “I wouldn’t do it!” But my guest on this week’s podcast used her extensive experience in the world of extreme sports to learn to harness fear and develop a system for teaching this to others. Whether you’re scared of public speaking or simply too nervous to ask that guy or girl for their number, Kristen Ulmer’s approach to fear is unique and effective.
Listen & Learn:
- Step 1: acknowledge fear as normal and natural
- Step 2: touch your body where you feel the fear bubbling up
- Step 3: let go for resistance to fear
- Suffering = discomfort x resistance
- How to achieve a flow state
- Understanding the lure of extreme sports
Links & Resources
ABOUT OUR GUEST
Kristen Ulmer is a fear and anxiety expert who draws from her experience with extreme skiing, studies of Zen, professional facilitation with 1000s of clients. She is the author of, The Art of Fear; Why Conquering Fear Won’t Work and What to Do Instead. Kristen’s work has also been featured in such media as NPR, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, USA Today, The Megyn Kelly Show, The Robb Report, and Tim Ferriss’s Tribe of Mentors.
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| 0:00.0 | This past year has really been defined by uncertainty and uncertainty is really just |
| 0:07.9 | code word for fear. Fear of illness or death, fear of political strife, |
| 0:14.0 | fear of job loss, fear of a future |
| 0:16.0 | that probably won't look like the past. |
| 0:19.0 | And of all the things that motivate us, |
| 0:21.0 | fear is not on the list, |
| 0:22.0 | fear would be on the list of |
| 0:23.6 | demotivators, right? These are the things that keep us locked up in our house, locked up in our |
| 0:28.4 | head, tossing and turning at night. And it's one thing to say that the only thing to fear is fear itself but it's |
| 0:35.8 | another thing to really just look back at your life history and you realize that |
| 0:40.4 | is not true there are real things that will hurt you and the people you love and will turn your life upside down. |
| 0:47.0 | Fear is part of life. It's an important part of life. It's an important emotion. It's adaptive. It's here to serve us, but for many of us it becomes |
| 0:56.4 | debilitating, keeps us from the things we want to do and the best version of ourselves |
| 1:00.6 | we can become. |
| 1:01.8 | On this week's podcast podcast we'll be chatting specifically |
| 1:04.3 | not about getting rid of fear, not about beating it down or hiding from it, but |
| 1:09.1 | about developing a deeper and more complex and nuanced relationship with fear. |
| 1:14.1 | A relationship with fear is probably the best way to think about it. |
| 1:17.3 | If you're new here, it's the Lucas Rockwood show. |
| 1:19.2 | I'm your host, I'm a yoga teacher, a teacher trainer, a serial entrepreneur. |
| 1:22.9 | I'm the father of three kids. |
| 1:24.4 | At the end of the day, though, I'm a student. |
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