Welcome to the Scuff Podcast where we talk about grassroots soccer today, the foundation of the organism. American soccer that produces the national teams we root for.

First let me introduce our guests. It's going to take a second.

Jesse Howe is a longtime friend of Scuffed. He and I both made an appearance in the

National Anthem behind the national anthem behind the

crest video from the time we restored Dosa Sero and since he that rainy November

night he's a huge fan of the men's and women's national teams a world traveler

and the assistant director of

coaching for the Calvert Soccer Association about an hour south of DC.

Thanks Bells, longtime supporter, a fan of the pod, love everything y'all put out.

I'm not able to participate in the discord as much these days, but devour every episode, preach the scuff gospel to all who will listen. Thank you man. And you're also the guy who sent Vince the mentality tweet poster, right?

Yes, yes, absolutely.

It had to be done.

He's yet to put it above his fireplace, but

Whether it hangs in his house or not is not the issue the fact that it got the laugh and the smile is kind of what I was going for.

And then we also have Kirk Kinsi who hosts the counter press and LAFC podcast but perhaps more importantly for our purposes today he is the

director of the Flagstaff revolution a kind of unique club in Arizona that manages to pull off pretty

sophisticated training at a low cost to players and families as I understand it.

Hey Craig. Hey, thanks, Bells.

I'm happy to be on.

We do, I am the Director of Flagstaff Revolution, really proud of the club and especially the kids for how

far they've come.

We've been running it for about five years now.

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