434: Hans Mattsson Pt. 5 -- His thoughts and feelings about the church today.
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.6 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 18 July 2013
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Hans H. Mattsson is a 3rd generation LDS church member from Sweden who served as a bishop and stake president before serving in the 3rd Quorum of the Seventy (Europe Central area) from 2000-2005 under LDS Apostle L. Tom Perry. In this 5-part interview, and accompanied by his beautiful wife Birgitta, Hans discusses the following: (1) His early years in Sweden, (2) His years as an Area Authority Seventy, (3) His interactions with LDS Apostles and the 1st Presidency, (4) His struggles with faith after being released as an area authority, and (5) His thoughts about the church today.
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| 0:28.6 | Okay, well let's end today. |
| 0:31.6 | Our final segment is going to be about what you believe now. |
| 0:36.6 | So what beliefs have you maintained in from what you've been taught in the LDS |
| 0:45.6 | Church? Do you still believe? Do you consider yourself a believer? |
| 0:49.6 | You know, let's start with your beliefs and then we'll talk about the things |
| 0:52.6 | you're not so much believing anymore. |
| 0:56.6 | This question is really tough for me because what you're saying is do you believe or |
| 1:03.6 | do you not believe? And what I did, I put down all many of my spiritual experiences |
| 1:11.6 | on a piece of paper. It really was three good-sized paper. |
| 1:16.6 | So three pages of spiritual experience? Yes. |
| 1:19.6 | A lot of good ones. Very good, you know. |
| 1:22.6 | And my problem is what shall I do about this? |
| 1:26.6 | How can this spirit of the Lord or the Holy Ghost testify in my? |
| 1:33.6 | At least that's what I feel. It was the Holy Ghost. |
| 1:37.6 | And then when you read about it and found out that it's not the way it is, |
| 1:45.6 | and if you just take the Book of Mormon, what is true about the Book of Mormon? |
| 1:53.6 | I mean, you can hear and I did it myself. I can go up and say, |
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