Welcome to your Anxiety Toolkit Podcast where I bring you all the virtual hugs and practical

strategies to help you face your fears and live each day with courage and compassion.

I'm Kimberly Quinlan, a licensed therapist and anxiety specialist.

And today, we are talking all about OCD treatment, where it stands in 2025, what we know,

what we're missing and what needs to change.

Whether you're struggling with anxiety, OCD, panic, perfectionism, this podcast is your

space to learn science-backed tools to help you build a life you love where you feel confident

even with fear on board. I am so honored to be joined by Dr. John Abramowitz, one of the leading

voices in the field of OCD research and treatment. In this episode, we're talking about the big picture and the

current landscape of OCD care from the progress we've made in evidence-based treatment to the

myths that still cause harm and the barriers that continue to keep people from getting the help

they need. So let's dive in. Welcome so much Dr. John Abramowitz. Thanks, Kim. Thanks for having

me. It's an honor to be here. I'm flattered that you picked me to have this conversation with.

So I look forward to it. Oh, I needed you for this episode. Truly I do. Like I'm all,

I'm very happy to say when I'm out of my league and I was out of my league in trying to do this on my own.

So let's jump in immediately to what would you say is the current state of OCD treatment in 2025, meaning what are we doing well at? What do we need to do better at? What are your

thoughts? Yeah, that's a great question. I think, you know, well, clearly we're in a much better place

than we were, you know, 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, I think, in the field of OCD.

Exposure and response prevention, ERP, is more than ever recognized as the gold standard

treatment that we have.

There's growing awareness of this treatment in the OCD community.

More clinicians are getting trained to do research you know, research-supported exposure

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