Welcome back to today's podcast. We've got Dr. Kirk Parsley, the return of the sleep expert himself.

A couple weeks ago, we had Dr. Dan Party on, which is awesome. He wrote his PhD on sleep.

Dr. Kirk was, if you don't remember, a Navy SEAL and then a medical doctor for the SEALs.

And he's been on the show multiple times hugely popular and well known within

the paleo community was a speaker at paleo effects for many years good buddies with rob wolf dr peter

tia and many people that are working the optimization angle via food sleep and everything else so

i've learned a ton from dr kirk over the years uh it was really cool because he just popped into my mind.

I didn't realize he had moved out of the state.

I was like, I got to hit him up, man. He needs to come back on the podcast. And he's like, dude, I left. I'm in Arizona. But I'm driving to Texas right now. So fucking super cool. Love little synchronicities like that. We had a great podcast. and we'll all you you know, Kirk's always welcome on this podcast,

so this for sure won't be the last.

But share this one far and wide. And without further ado, my brother, Dr. Kirk Parsley.

Dr. Kirk Parsley, welcome back to the podcast.

I want to get us rock and rolling here so we don't miss any fun stuff.

We were talking the prepper group that's just west of here and how much I appreciate them and raw

milk and all sorts of goodies and I was like this we can just get this going because that's good

good food for thought yeah good food in general raw milk it's funny I had a I did a post on I had

mark McAfee on who to this day runs the largest raw milk distributor in the US.S. Okay. And I think it's organic pastures. I'm not uncertain though, but maybe I'm mixing that up with a different company. But they were the first all raw milk, but they used Holstein cows. They were down in Fresno. When I was in California, they were in Whole Food Sprouts everywhere. And then they had some scare about some shit. And then the Whole Foods pulled it. Sprouts eventually pulled it. But they used to have a pint of colostrum. They had kefir. They had everything you could think about raw butter. The whole lineup was there. And then it got condensed down to just those gallons. I didn't realize when I was interviewing. That was his company. But he gave some cool stories. And he's actually, he works with a couple of scientists from Europe really studying the differences between the two. And he had some cool shit to say that did a little post on it. And some guy who was right after I had podcasted with Liver King. So that was bringing in just all sorts of shit talking. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This guy's like, don't listen to this guy. He thinks Ron Milk's a superfood. It's just like, that's okay if we don't yet know that. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. Obviously, we've been right around us, helped them all in this space for a long time. And they're, whenever the talking heads come and go. but it's interesting how nuanced and complex everything is,

right? You would think, whatever, it's milk. You've been drinking milk your whole life. But, you know,

part of this little group I went to, they talked about the difference, the difference between the

milks and the different kind of cows and why this one was better than that and then this process

that. and I think

we had two one hour lectures on milk and it was amazingly fascinating or informative very very informative

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