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The History of Literature

43 Seeing Evil (with Professor Rebecca Messbarger)

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

Arts, History, Books

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2016

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

What is evil? Is it a force that lives outside us? Or something that dwells within? And how do we recognize it? Professor Rebecca Messbarger joins Jacke to discuss the problems of seeing evil and the particular ways that post-Fascist Italian writers dealt with the dilemma. We also hear the story of how a mild-mannered Italian professor’s scholarly research eventually led to her roaming the Internet in an attempt to purchase a cadaver.  Books Discussed:  The Lady Anatomist: The Life and Work of Anna Morandi Manzolini by Rebecca Messbarger Alabama Moon by Watt Key Mr. Palomar by Italo Calvino That Awful Mess on the Via Merulana by Carlo Emilio Gadda Todo Modo by Leonardo Sciascia Family Sayings by Natalia Ginzburg Show Notes: You can find more literary discussion at jackewilson.com and more episodes of the series at historyofliterature.com. Contact the host at jackewilsonauthor@gmail.com or by leaving a voicemail at 1-361-4WILSON (1-361-494-5766). Music Credits: “Handel – Entrance to the Queen of Sheba” by Advent Chamber Orchestra (From the Free Music Archive / CC by SA). “Spy Glass” and “Bushwick Tarantella Loop” by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0    *** This show is a part of the Podglomerate network, a company that produces, distributes, and monetizes podcasts. We encourage you to visit the website and sign up for our newsletter for more information about our shows, launches, and events. For more information on how The Podglomerate treats data, please see our Privacy Policy.  Since you're listening to The History of Literature, we'd like to suggest you also try other Podglomerate shows surrounding literature, history, and storytelling like Storybound, Micheaux Mission, and The History of Standup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The History of Literature Podcast is a member of the Podglamorate Network and LIT Hub Radio.

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Hello everyone, this is Jack Wilson, the host of the History of Literature Podcast.

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I'm so glad you're here and welcome to the show.

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One quick note before we begin, you have found one of the oldest episodes in our archive.

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The show doesn't discuss literature in chronological order,

0:26.2

so you won't be missing anything if you start with the more recent episodes

0:29.6

instead of the earliest ones.

0:31.4

And, let's be honest honest the show's quality has improved

0:34.4

quite a bit since these early days. But of course where you begin is up to you and

0:39.4

if you'd like to give this one a try please be my guest. All of the episodes in the archive are yours to enjoy for free.

0:47.0

What is evil? Is it a force that lives outside us or something that dwells within?

0:58.4

How good are we at recognizing it? We all crave a lens that will allow us to see what's true.

1:07.3

And I think that's what all of these are about.

1:10.6

That trying to see, correctly, trying to see what's in front of you I think it's very very

1:16.6

difficult and especially when we're talking about good and evil right especially in

1:22.0

those cases because the stakes are so high. We're talking to

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Professor Rebecca Messbarger, expert in the Italian Enlightenment and post-fascist

1:31.2

detective fiction today on the history of literature. Okay, today is a great episode. It's a great day. I'm Jack Wilson. Welcome to the

1:56.1

podcast. Now let me give you a little background for this one. Today's guest is

2:00.7

someone I've known a long time.

2:03.0

Professor Rebecca Messbarger was one of my Italian teachers when I was in college.

2:08.1

I think I've talked about this a little before, but I don't think I've ever explained how or

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