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428. The Simple Economics of Saving the Amazon Rain Forest

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πŸ—“οΈ 30 July 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Everyone agrees that massive deforestation is an environmental disaster. But most of the standard solutions β€” scolding the Brazilians, invoking universal morality β€” ignore the one solution that might actually work

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, this is Steve Levitt.

0:05.1

Dubner has taken the week off and handed the microphone over to me.

0:08.4

And that gives me the chance to investigate something that's really been troubling me.

0:12.3

It seems like ages ago, with all that's happened since, but do you remember the headlines

0:16.8

back last summer?

0:18.3

Fires are raging across Brazil's Amazon rainforest.

0:21.4

What's largest rainforest is being destroyed at an alarming rate.

0:25.2

Much of the blame is being heaped on Brazil's far right president.

0:28.9

Diarbal scenario.

0:30.7

I'd never give much thought to the Amazon rainforest.

0:33.3

All the media coverage, though, of the wildfires got me wondering.

0:36.2

Is it really true that the Amazon rainforest is being destroyed?

0:39.3

Should I be upset about that happening?

0:41.7

Or is it no big deal?

0:42.7

If it is a big deal, there's some way we could save it.

0:46.5

Ecologists, environmentalists, and politicians have strong opinions about the answers to those

0:51.3

questions.

0:52.3

The economics of the Amazon, however, are barely discussed in the public debate.

0:56.1

As soon came to realize, that's a huge mistake.

0:59.4

On today's episode, we will explore the simple economics fueling one of the world's most dangerous,

1:04.6

ecological disasters.

1:06.6

It is a great example of a market failure.

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