In 2020, you had nothing, right? So people were hoping, isn't there something maybe on the pharmacy shelves that we already have that we can use, help ameliorate this disease? And so hydroxychloric one, an anti-malarial drug popped up, or Ivermectin, which is sort of an antiparacetic drug popped up. How about those? I used to buy a lot of Ivermectin, but that's because I used to have horses.

That was the meme, right?

Ask, uh, your large animal veterinarian weather.

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Your task will not be an easy one.

Your enemy is well trained, well equipped, and battlehardt.

There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.

There is the United States of America.

Hey folks and welcome back to the Lincoln Project Podcast.

I'm your host, as always Rick Wilson, back from the new year.

It is a new year indeed indeed we are already seeing the early

title wave of insanity cresting toward us from the trump administration and my guest today is

going to enlighten us on a segment of the coming insanity that makes me completely uncomfortable

in every way and that is this anti-scientific RFK Jr.

Anti-Vax cult that Trump and a lot of his followers seem to have bought into.

Our guest today is Paul Offit.

Paul is a medical doctor, an immunologist, a guy who understands pediatric immunology and medicine,

better than almost any human being you're going to meet.

He's the author of Tell Me When It's Over, An Insider's Guide to Deciphering COVID Myths

and navigating our post-pandemic world, and the author of The Explet Beyond the Noise Substack,

where he talks about the things that matter in these discussions about health care,

about vaccines, about science, about the fact that we live in a world where pandemics are real.

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