424. The Real JD Vance: From Never Trumper to Vice President (Part 3)

The Rest Is Politics

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🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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How do you go from calling Donald Trump “Hitler” to becoming his most loyal ally? Why did JD Vance abandon the thoughtful, Christian conservative image that made him famous? And what does his transformation reveal about how power really works in Trump’s America? Join Rory and Alastair as they answer all these questions and more in Part 3 of their first ever miniseries, The Real JD Vance, exclusively for members of The Rest Is Politics Plus. New episodes every Friday morning. Claim your FREE TRIAL at ⁠therestispolitics.com⁠. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Join today or enjoy a free trial at⁠ ⁠therestispolitics.com⁠⁠⁠. The Rest Is Politics is powered by Fuse Energy. Fuse are giving away FREE TRIP+ membership for all of 2025 to new sign ups 🎉 TRIP+ gets you ad-free listening, discounts, and early access to episodes and pre-sale tickets for live shows! To sign up and for terms and conditions, visit ⁠GetFuse.com/Politics⁠ ⚡ Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ ⁠nordvpn.com/restispolitics⁠ It's risk-free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee ✅ For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to ⁠www.goalhanger.com⁠ Instagram: ⁠@restispolitics⁠ Twitter: ⁠@restispolitics⁠ Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Writers: Callum Hill, Evan Green Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producers: Evan Green, India Dunkley Producers: Nicole Maslen, Fiona Douglas Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Thanks for listening to The Restis Politics. Sign up to The Restis Politics Plus. To enjoy ad-free listening,
0:04.9	receive a weekly newsletter, join our members chat room and gain early access to live show tickets.
0:09.4	Just go to therestispolities.com. That's the rest is politics.com.
0:13.3	The price of getting Trump's support is you have to say the election was stolen, or you have to say that
0:18.3	Trump won the election and Biden is not the president. Which he doesn't believe. How is it actually possible to say, I'm this really serious heavyweight guy
0:26.6	who cares about morality and character, and Donald Trump is abhorrent and the Antichrist, and then say,
0:31.4	actually I was wrong, Donald Trump's great. The shift has been so profound to accommodate Trump, to be alongside Trump, to be the
0:39.4	vice president and hopefully set himself up to be president. He does it by choosing to abandon
0:45.3	the thoughtful, Christian, empathetic, tolerant, conservative vision and instead reembrace
0:53.6	his hillbilly identity.
0:55.8	This is where this other side of his personality comes through.
0:58.6	He's reverting to blame anger, anger with immigrants.
1:02.8	There is some talk that the Vance's favoured idea for the next election ticket is Vance Trump.
1:11.2	Are Vance with Donald J? This is running, mate.
1:13.2	Correct. How better to keep Trump's senior on board than to have Trump the name still on the ballot.
1:18.3	As the VP.
1:29.2	Hi there, it's Alice here.
1:34.2	Now, you may know, Rory and I are right bang in the middle of our first ever long-form series,
1:39.6	The Real J.D. Vance, exclusively available on The Restis Politics Plus.
1:45.3	In episode one, we explored Vance's early life, the chaotic family background, the small-town struggles,
1:50.2	and the personal myth-making that turned Hillbilly elegy, his memoir, into a bestseller,
1:52.6	and made Vance a political rising star.
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