Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

Today's episode is a follow-up to yesterday's conversation with Gilman-Loey,

CEO of America's Frontier Fund.

As is clear from that discussion and a bunch of other episodes, I've recorded, there is a broad

consensus that one of the most pressing tasks facing the country is regaining as much of our

advanced manufacturing base as possible. If the episode of Gilman was about the why, then

today's is about the why then, the how.

I'm speaking with David Adler and William Bonn Julian,

whose recent American affairs piece titled America's Advanced

Manufacturing Problem, How to fix it, gets to all

the specific challenges and the actual implementation and work on the ground in factories and

in labs that needs to be done moving forward.

Hope you all enjoy this conversation and a huge thank you to the Foundation for American Innovation

for supporting the work of this podcast. David Adler and Bill Bon Valian.

Welcome to the realignment.

This is a cool opportunity to talk about, I think, one of the most important topics in the Biden era, and even if we extend back into 2015, the Trump era as well.

I've got the latest fall issue of American Affairs and the two of your peace

America's advanced manufacturing woes led that volume so shout out to American

Affairs and the worker Julius Crying.

David, I want to just kick off by asking you a basic question that you kind of open the piece with, which is,

why was there a taboo against industrial policy in the first place obviously if you could

define industrial policy to in that answer that'd be great.

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