Whether it's a cool remodel or a new build, you know, both parties, Microsoft

including, gets excited about the possibilities and sometimes you have to look past them,

be like, all right, do the personalities match, to the budgets match, to the timelines match,

and that way, you know, for for everybody involved it's a decent project

welcome to the fine home building pro talk podcast a regular discussion with building

industry professionals this is senior editor patrick mcone today i'm joined by builder and remodeler, Jason Kerrer.

You can find the Fine Homeboding Pro Talk podcast and the original Fine Homeboding podcast at Fine Homeboding.com slash podcast.

You can ask questions and leave feedback there too.

First off, Jason, did I say your last name correctly?

Is it Carer?

You did?

I'm actually impressed.

It's usually a tricky one.

I usually ask folks ahead of the show, and I forgot to, so I apologize.

But at least I got it right.

Well done.

Can you tell me what you do for a living?

I own a company in down-east-main region called Pine State Builders.

We do general contracting, new construction, remodeling,

and we found a small niche of sorts doing historical restoration work as well.

And how did you get into this business?

And when did it start?

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