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Hey friend, this is Java with Julie, and I'm Julie Slattery.

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Well, as I'm sure you know, this last Friday, the Supreme Court reversed Roe versus Wade

with their decision on the Dobbs case. For the next few weeks and

months, you're going to be hearing news sources and podcasts talk about the political implications

of that decision. That's a really important conversation, but perhaps even more important

is the conversation that we'll have today. My guest is Angie Wesley.

Angie is the founder of Pro Grace, a ministry that equips Christians with a third answer in the pro-choice, pro-life divide.

Angie and I recorded this conversation just a few weeks ago. I wanted her to share about what she's been seeing on the front lines of the abortion debate

and how she's helping

churches navigate a truly Christian response. What I really appreciate about Angie is that she can

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