Hello. Hello everyone. I'm speaking today with Dr. Chris Palmer. He's associated with

the Harvard Medical School and with McLean Hospital, which is perhaps the world's

preeminent psychiatric hospital.

And we talked today about material associated, for example, with his book, 2022 book called

Brain Energy. Dr. Palmer has been pursuing the hypothesis that many mental disorders, especially the really severe mental disorder, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, major depression, intractable depression with no apparent environmental cause, let's say, or psychological cause, might be associated with metabolic disorder, mediated primarily by

by mitochondrial dysfunction.

The mitochondria are basically the energy factories in every cell and so

mitochondria, and that's not all they do.

Mitochondrial disorder therefore is very, very serious problem.

He's been experimenting with ketogenic diet, Ken in some sense to the diet that my daughter

has been promoting the lion diet, making the case that use of such diets

can not only reduce the effect of potential toxins on mitochondrial function, but also increase mitochondrial metabolism and also help the body heal by putting it into a state known as a topogy or mitophagy, which are states where the body is actually taking itself apart as a consequence of food deprivation and then rebuilding itself.

Anyways, he's, he makes the case, we'll discuss the probability that this kind of

hypothesizing has gone beyond the merely anecdotal

to the point where there is a tremendous amount of research supporting the proposition that

dietary factors play a major role in the genesis of such severe

mental disorders and not only mental disorders, also physical disorders like obesity, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, you know, the common

enemies of mankind. And so we're going to discuss that in detail. Thank you for joining us.

Dr. Palmer, let's start out at the level of conceptualization.

In your 2022 book, correct me if I get any of this wrong, because I don't want to put words in your mouth.

You're concentrating at least on the relationship between, I would say, brain dysfunction,

biological dysfunction, metabolic dysfunction, and what we generally think of

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