421. The Real JD Vance: The Power Behind The Man (Part 2)

The Rest Is Politics

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🗓️ 27 June 2025

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What do we know about the billionaire tech bros backing Vance who hate democracy? Is Vance the political face of a revolution for the super rich? Is he a voice for the Rust Belt, or an avatar for Silicon Valley? Join Rory and Alastair as they answer all these questions and more in Part 2 of their first ever miniseries, The Real JD Vance, exclusively for members of The Rest Is Politics Plus. Claim your FREE TRIAL at therestispolitics.com. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive bonus content, early access to Question Time episodes to live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Join today or enjoy a free trial at ⁠therestispolitics.com⁠⁠. The Rest Is Politics is powered by Fuse Energy. Fuse are giving away FREE TRIP+ membership for all of 2025 to new sign ups 🎉 TRIP+ gets you ad-free listening, discounts, and early access to episodes and pre-sale tickets for live shows! To sign up and for terms and conditions, visit GetFuse.com/Politics ⚡ Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ nordvpn.com/restispolitics It's risk-free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee ✅ For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @restispolitics Email: [email protected] Writers: Callum Hill, Evan Green Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producers: Evan Green, India Dunkley Producers: Nicole Maslen, Fiona Douglas Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Thanks for listening to The Restis Politics. Sign up to the Restis Politics Plus. To enjoy ad-free listening,
0:04.9	receive a weekly newsletter, join our members chat room and gain early access to live show tickets.
0:09.4	Just go to therestispolities.com. That's the restis politics.com.
0:13.2	A lot of very, very powerful right-wing people did not want J.D. Vance on the Trump ticket.
0:18.2	Peter Thiel and Elon Musk did. Peter Thiel clearly saw something in Vance on the Trump ticket. Peter Thiel and he almost did. Peter Thiel clearly saw something in Vance.
0:22.4	He basically doesn't see Trump as the monarch. He sees Vance as the monarch. He thinks Vance is a more
0:26.7	impressive character intellectually. Two of his big backers, Teal and Yavin, are people who actually
0:32.2	don't really believe in politics. They want to get rid of politicians. They want them out of their
0:36.7	hair. Yavin wants
0:37.6	one politician to run the country and we need a startup guy, a visionary leader like Napoleon or
0:44.3	Lenin, who should have absolute power, dismantle the old regime and build something new.
0:49.3	Vance combines the hillbilly energy story with the tech bro story and in doing so crosses the
0:55.8	cusp into a whole new vision of the world at the center of which is not democracy but the
1:02.0	CEO the authoritarian the monarch.
1:06.0	Hi there, Rory here.
1:15.5	As you might be aware, we're currently rolling out our first ever series, the real J.D. Vance,
1:21.9	exclusively for The Rest is Politics Plus.
1:25.0	It charts the remarkable rise of J.D. Vance from hillbilly Never Trumper to Donald J. Trump's Vice President.
1:32.5	In the first episode, we released his very, very early life, and we're now delving into how his rise was fueled and accelerated by a very, what I would see is a very shady network of tech bro, multi-billionaires,
1:46.7	who don't really like democracy, and who basically think they should be master's in
1:50.9	universe, and they see Vance as their political leader. And in particular, a guy called Peter Thiel,
1:57.2	you may have heard about, he sees him not just as a future president, he sees him as a
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