Not that like sharing that knowledge with the world, you know, through the magazine and

podcasts and stuff, um, wasn't fulfilling or important, but like I really just was almost jealous

of the people that we were going out and taking pictures of and just wanted to do it myself.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, a regular discussion with building industry

professionals.

Tonight I'm joined with my friend and former colleague, former Feynman Home Building deputy editor and now carpenter and man extraordinaire Matt Milham.

That's a little thick. I don't know. Man extraordinaire. Man child. Yeah.

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Well, Matt, it is a pleasure to have you on this show. Thank you for doing this.

Yeah, it's good to be back at the same time. Like, I don't know if I've ever been this nervous

going on a podcast that I used to do it all the time. And it's a little different. I agree. I'm feeling a little

nervous about it too. I decided I could sit down, which I never do because it was after five,

because you worked all day, right? Yeah, yeah. I got home, showered real quick, like jammed a

couple pieces of pizza in my mouth. And yeah, now I'm sitting down. My hair looks like crap.

But we've both resisted starting drinking, which I think is not a small thing, right?

Yeah, I really, yeah. I mean, believe me, this is not the condition I wanted to be in at this time.

So I introduced you as a carpenter. Is that a fair description of your job? Is that the accurate job title?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I really have a job title, you know. I mean, like, I'm, whatever job I'm at, like, I'm usually on the schedule as as lead. I wouldn't, I don't know that I'd describe myself as a lead carpenter. I'm not, you know,

Ian Schwant. But, you know, I guess, you know, I do know some things and, you know, kind of can teach

people. It's a little bit like being in. You're always good at digging into things and figuring

things out, which I'm sure is what your company is relying on you to do.

Yeah, I mean, you know, carpentry in general is a lot of problem solving, you know, especially the kind of work that we're doing because we're almost working exclusively in like old houses.

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