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Welcome to the Most Notorious Podcast. I'm Eric Rivenes. I'm very pleased to have as my guest today, Shane Free, the director of Hex Hollow, Witchcraft and Murder in Pennsylvania.

It's a wonderful documentary and I appreciate your time tremendously. Thank you for joining me.

Thanks for having me, Eric. I appreciate it.

So where did you first hear about this story and how did you come to make a film about it?

Well, it's a story that was kind of where I grew up in New York, Pennsylvania. It's a story that really permeated the society throughout the years. It's always kind of hung on and people always talked about it from when it happened in 1928.

So I just remember growing up and my dad would tell me this story because we lived about 25 minutes away from where it happened.

So I just remember him telling me this story and it was something to just really always kind of stuck in my mind.

And I remember probably about in 2013 or so, I was thinking about the story again and I wanted to just watch a movie about it to kind of learn more.

So I thought, well, I'm going to just watch a documentary on it. There must be one made. And as I was searching around, I couldn't find anything about it other than a few books, which I've already read.

So I thought, well, I guess in order to watch a documentary on this movie, I'm going to have to make one myself. So that's kind of how I really got into making it in a tree.

I know when really touched it. And I thought it was something that needed to be kind of, you know, captured on film and just immortalize that way.

So when you began your research, what were the primary sources you used to build your story?

My main primary source was J. Ross McGinnis, who wrote kind of the definitive book on the subject. I thought, if I can get him on board, I can do this.

If I can't get him on board, it really wouldn't be worth trying to do because he's been giving speeches on this topic for like 40 years now.

And he's in his 80s now. So once I got him on board, I was able to kind of connect to other people who were related to people who were involved in the case from that point forward.

So I was able to talk to family members and descendants. And as many people as I could find who were still alive that were connected to this case in some way.

I mean, it happened in 1928. So obviously, I was lacking people directly connected, but I had descendants and I had a few people who were directly connected.

So it was it was pretty helpful. Once I had him on board, I could kind of tell them that look, he's going to do this with me.

And that kind of gave some legitimacy to the project.

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