419 – Stuff Happens

Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men

Jay Edidin & Miles Stokes

Arts, Books, Visual Arts

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Run, Penance! The retcons are coming for you! (Generation X #40) In which the St. Croix family is constructed largely of retcons; Generation X adjusts surprisingly quickly to a massive status quo shift; Psi-War is coming soon to a podcast near you; Snow White - I mean, Bianca LaNeige - has an intriguing but exceptionally minimal backstory; and if you die in this podcast episode, you die in real life. X-PLAINED: Hellfire Club history Generation X #40-43 MillXnials Mercy General Hospital vs Our Mother of Mercy Hospital Ambiguous psionic overlap Nicole & Claudette & Monet & Marius St. Croix The Downtown Stomp Synch, agreeable and bland (for now) Vincent Adultman The nature of Penance A glacial but effective pace Bianca LaNeige, evil Snow White from space Warpy, Stinky, Spiky, Windy, Greasy, Brainy, and Blurry The Enchanted Forest of Oregon Claremont:Body Swaps::Hama:Getting Stuck In Other Dimensions Jay vs. Accents Terminal Dream Syndrome A surprisingly gruesome fill-in An underrated era for Emma Frost Betty & Veronica, presenting like mandrills Zak the Neutrino Albert & Elsie-Dee (briefly) The Dodsons vs Mike Allred Dr. Bronner’s uncredited Marvel career Our coverage of Ultimate X-Men (or lack thereof) Dr. Phil Zimbardo’s xplainthexmen study NEXT EPISODE: Queering Wolverine with Dr. Christopher Michael Roman! Check out the visual companion to this episode on our blog! Find us on iTunes or Stitcher! Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men is 100% ad-free and listener supported. If you want to help support the podcast–and unlock more cool stuff–you can do that right here! Buy rad swag at our TeePublic shop!

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0:00.0	You know, Jay, it's still weird to me that the Hellfire Club funded the Sentinels.
0:05.0	I mean, they're mutants.
0:07.0	Well, that iteration of the Hellfire Club is mutants. They haven't always been.
0:11.0	I mean, it was all humans until Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost murdered Edward Buckman and Paris Saville.
0:17.0	I know all the intercircle titles or legacies, but Emma Frost is just so definitively the white queen that I always forget there have been others.
0:24.5	Sure. Then is your car? Satire 9? Jean Grey?
0:29.0	Wasn't Jean the black queen? Also, I thought that whole arc was just Phoenix pretending to be Jean.
0:34.0	Oh, in the present, sure. But you know how Mastermind made Jean believe she was having flashbacks to some ancestor of hers?
0:41.0	Yeah.
0:42.0	Turns out that ancestor actually existed, and that ancestral Jean Grey was, in fact, white queen of the Hellfire Club.
0:49.0	Did she also fund killer robots? Or, I don't know, automatons?
0:54.0	No, no. She tricked one of Sebastian Shaw's ancestors into marrying one of Warren Worthington's ancestors.
1:00.0	Why'd she do that?
1:02.0	Well, this means that spying on one of Steve Rogers ancestors and else Subledstone's dad so that the Hellfire Club could...
1:07.0	Jake over the world?
1:08.0	Stop the American Revolution.
1:10.0	WHAT?!
1:11.0	I'm Jay Editing.
1:24.0	And I'm Miles Stokes.
1:25.0	And we are here to explain the X-Men.
1:28.0	Because it's about time someone did.
1:30.0	Welcome to episode 419 of Jay and Miles explain the X-Men where we walk you through the ins, outs, and retcons of comics, greatest superhero soap opera.
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