417. The Real JD Vance: America’s Next President? (Part 1)

The Rest Is Politics

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Politics, Government, News

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🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Will JD Vance be America's next president, or its first king? What explains his journey from vehement never-Trumper to Trump’s Vice President and heir apparent? How far will he go in the pursuit of unfettered power? Enjoy this extract from Rory and Alastair's new mini-series on the Vice President of the United States, exclusively for members of TRIP+. Join today or enjoy a free trial at therestispolitics.com⁠. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Become a member for exclusive members-only mini-series, exclusive deep-dive episodes, early access to Question Time and live show tickets, ad-free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members chatroom on Discord. The Rest Is Politics is powered by Fuse Energy. Fuse are giving away FREE TRIP+ membership for all of 2025 to new sign ups 🎉 TRIP+ gets you ad-free listening, discounts, and early access to episodes and pre-sale tickets for live shows! To sign up and for terms and conditions, visit GetFuse.com/Politics ⚡ Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ nordvpn.com/restispolitics It's risk-free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee ✅ For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @restispolitics Email: [email protected] Writers: Callum Hill and Evan Green Social Producer: Celine Charles Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producers: Evan Green, India Dunkley Producers: Nicole Maslen, Fiona Douglas Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:04.9	receive a weekly newsletter, join our members chat room and gain early access to live show tickets.
0:09.4	Just go to therestispolities.com. That's the restispolics.com.
0:13.3	If Donald Trump dropped dead, this guy is automatically president, how he has become what he's become from this background?
0:23.2	I'm sitting in the back of this police cruiser.
0:24.9	They've just arrested my mom, the relief of having survived another day.
0:28.8	This is a story about something which we don't often talk about in America, which is class.
0:33.0	I came from a southern Ohio steel town, and it's a town that's really struggling in a lot of ways.
0:37.8	Trump, I think that he's leading the white working class to a very dark place.
0:42.1	I'm a never-Trump guy.
0:43.3	I never liked him.
0:44.4	But in the end, the main thing you need to understand about J.D. Gantz is, given the
0:49.1	choice between his intellectual statements and power.
0:56.0	He chooses power every time.
0:58.3	I was wrong about Donald Trump.
1:00.2	Senator, this is an evolution.
1:01.9	Past comments that you've made.
1:04.0	You've said, idiot, if you voted for him,
1:05.5	might be America's Hitler.
1:08.7	This is where this other side of his personality comes through.
1:11.7	He's reverting to blame anger.
1:15.8	We're seeing migrants kidnap our dogs and cats.
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