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#410 – Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine & Wokeism

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Lex Fridman

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.7 β€’ 13K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 23 January 2024

⏱️ 146 minutes

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Ben Shapiro is a conservative political commentator, host of The Ben Shapiro Show, co-founder of The Daily Wire, and author of The Authoritarian Moment and other books. Steven Bonnell, aka Destiny, is a liberal political commentator and a live streamer on YouTube. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(07:21) - Liberalism vs Conservatism
(12:34) - Education
(28:51) - Trump vs Biden
(49:16) - Foreign policy
(1:02:13) - Israel-Palestine
(1:17:10) - Russia-Ukraine
(1:28:50) - January 6
(1:44:48) - Abuse of power
(1:54:46) - Wokeism
(2:01:27) - Institutional capture
(2:15:21) - Monogamy vs open relationships
(2:20:14) - Rapid fire questions

Transcript

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0:00.0

The following is a debate between Ben Shapiro and Destiny, each arguably representing the right and the left of American politics, respectively.

0:09.0

They are two of the most influential and skilled political debaters in the world. This debate has been a long time coming for many years.

0:17.9

It's about 2.5 hours and we could have easily gone for many more and I'm sure we will. It is only round one.

0:27.8

And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the

0:32.2

description. It's the best way to support this

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podcast. We got AG1 for health, Policy Genius for insurance, Express VPN for

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Privacy and Security on the interwebs and Insight Tracker for biological data that leads to health.

0:48.0

Choose wisely, my friends.

0:49.0

Also, if you want to work with our amazing team or was hiring, go to Lex Friedman.com slash hiring.

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Or if you want to get in touch with me, for whatever reason, go to Lex Friedman.com

0:59.6

slash contact.

1:01.1

And now, onto the full ad reads, as always, no ads in the middle. I try to make these

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interesting, but if you must skip them, friends, please do check out our sponsors.

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I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too. This episode is brought to you by A.G. 1, an all-in-one daily drink to support

1:19.1

better health and peak performance. I have to be honest, I ran out of it two days ago. It was one of those moments

1:26.0

when you realize how big of a part of your life a thing is. You really do realize that when the thing is gone most intensely, most viscerally.

1:37.0

And it's actually the little things that form the foundation of a peaceful existence,

1:43.2

those little rituals, those little habits, those little comforts.

1:47.2

They make life so at once mundane,

1:51.5

and at the same time just perfect just right.

1:55.0

Anyway I've recently been doing daily exercise of some sort so it's either grappling, running, or weightlifting, one of those, and at least one hour.

2:07.8

I think like a lot of things is just easier to do a thing every day than like five times a week.

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