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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

41 | Steven Strogatz on Synchronization, Networks, and the Emergence of Complex Behavior

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2019

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

One of the most important insights in the history of science is the fact that complex behavior can arise from the undirected movements of small, simple systems. Despite the fact that we know this, we’re still working to truly understand it — to uncover the mechanisms by which, and conditions under which, complexity can emerge from simplicity. (Coincidentally, a new feature in Quanta on this precise topic came out while this episode was being edited.) Steven Strogatz is a leading researcher in this field, a pioneer both in the subject of synchronization and in that of small-world networks. He’s also an avid writer and wide-ranging thinker, so we also talk about problems with the way we educate young scientists, and the importance of calculus, the subject of his new book. Support Mindscape on Patreon or Paypal. Steven Strogatz received his Ph.D. in applied mathematics from Harvard, and is currently the Jacob Gould Schurman Professor of Applied Mathematics at Cornell. His work has ranged over a wide variety of topics in mathematical biology, nonlinear dynamics, networks, and complex systems. He is the author of a number of books, including SYNC, The Joy of x, and most recently Infinite Powers. His awards include teaching prizes at MIT and Cornell, as well as major prizes from the Joint Policy Board for Mathematics, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the Mathematical Association of America, and the Lewis Thomas Prize. Web site Cornell web page Google scholar page Amazon author page Wikipedia TED talk on synchronization Twitter See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to the Mindscape Podcast. I'm your host Sean Carroll.

0:04.3

In today's episode we're going to tackle a perennial big question in the natural sciences,

0:10.1

trying to understand the sense in which the world is complicated.

0:14.1

Now I mean this in a very particular way. I mean there's a way the world could be,

0:18.4

which is completely chaotic, right? Like things just happening at random as no order

0:22.4

or structure anywhere.

0:23.5

There's another way the world could be, which is completely rigid and orderly, right?

0:28.6

The actual world is somewhere in between these two things.

0:32.3

There's sort of poles of chaos and order and we balance ourselves in between.

0:37.2

That's one feature, but the other is no one planned it, right?

0:40.6

There's not a central designer that says this is how things should be.

0:43.7

This, the universe somehow organizes itself.

0:47.4

And when I say the universe, especially of course here on Earth in the biosphere.

0:51.8

So today's guest is actually a mathematician.

0:54.4

Steven Strogatz has become very well known for his popular books on mathematics.

0:59.9

But he's equally successful as a researcher.

1:02.2

As I mentioned in the podcast, he's the author of a paper that has well over 30,000 citations,

1:07.6

which makes regular physicists like me very jealous.

1:10.6

And one of the founders of both the field of studying synchronization,

1:15.1

spontaneous synchronization of different physical systems.

1:18.7

And then out of that study came the study of networks

1:22.4

in particular small world networks.

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