I'm never going to work for someone who's going to make me go counter to my values.

I'm never going to do something that I can't sleep at night.

And if I need to, I need to have enough to walk away at any point in time if someone's going to ask me to compromise my morals.

So yeah, I encourage people to think about take seriously what you just said.

Like live below your means, set some money aside so that if you are in that situation,

that you have to make a change.

You have that ability to do so.

Welcome to A Better Life with Brandon Turner.

That is me, where world-class guests share their wisdom on building a better life.

Join me as we explore the habits, the actions, and the beliefs that have guided their journey

with the aim of helping you apply those lessons to your own. Brian Murray, welcome to the show, man.

I'm excited to be here.

Dude, every time we get to talk, it's like coming home to a good friend.

So you and I have had quite the adventure the last few years.

I appreciate that. I agree. Yeah. Me too. So Brian, I know you as obviously a partner

in mine at Open Door Capital. I know you as a real estate investor, one of the greatest

real estate investors of all time before that. And even while we built this massive Open Door Capital,

I know you as a bestselling author, one of the best selling real estate authors in the capital. I know you as a bestselling author, one of the

best selling real estate authors in the world. I know you as an ultramarathon guy. I know you as a

very deeply spiritual guy and not necessarily religious, but spiritual. And we can definitely

dig into that if you want to later. But let's go back before all that. Who was Brian Murray?

Well, first of all, thank you. You're too kind. I grew up in upstate New York in a, I guess,

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