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All right, so now let's Guide to the Galaxy.

And here is your host, David Barr-Kirtley.

Hello, and welcome to episode 409 of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy.

Our guest today is Veronica Roth.

She's the author of the Car of the Mark Zoology and the Short Story Collection, The End and Other Beginnings.

And her best-selling divergent novels were adapted into a series of popular films starring Shelean Woodley and Theo James.

And so we'll be speaking with her today about her first adult fantasy novel,

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