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Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, a regular discussion with building industry professionals.

This is Senior Editor Patrick McCone. Today I'm joined by Builder and remodeler Mason Lord of HVP in Kent, Connecticut.

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Mason, it is really nice to have you on the show. Thank you very much for being here.

Thank you for inviting me, Patrick.

It was, you know, Jeff who reminded me that although you've been part of the fine home building community and the fine home building podcast for a long time with your perspective on, you know, our show and your interview, especially of Gary Katz, that you had not been on Pro Talk.

And it's a pleasure to have you here.

Thank you.

I really enjoyed your interview with Gary, and I want to talk a little bit more about that later.

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