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Hey Paul, you know, sometimes I just like to tuck my knees into my chest and lean forward, Paul,

because that's how I roll.

So I mean, not really knee-specific necessarily. Not bad. There's knee in it. All right.

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Welcome back to the Curbsiders. I'm Dr. Matthew Wato here with my great friend, Dr. Paul Nelson

Williams. Today we are doing, I guess this is kind of like a knee pain 201. I think we're

calling this needful things, Paul, great title. Thank you. And we have back returning guests,

Dr. Ted Parks. We're at ACP Internal Medicine 2023. By the time this airs, it'll have been

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