#405 - “Chocolate C*KE!” - Ex-FBI Most Wanted Kingpin on Sicarios, Smuggling & Power | Owen Hanson
Julian Dorey Podcast
Julian Dorey
4.6 • 909 Ratings
🗓️ 6 April 2026
⏱️ 163 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I message him back, Julian. I say, hey, about that. I need to see you. I'm not going to tell this guy on this encrypted phone, who I've never met, thought I lost his money. I can't, right? I'm like, I need to see you. And he's like, okay, well, you got to come see me in Mexico. Yeah, so, who. Yeah, I fucking hate telling the story because it fucking brings back so many bad memories. |
| 0:22.6 | But so I go, I go to Tijuana. |
| 0:24.6 | I crossed the bridge. |
| 0:26.6 | Right back where it all started. |
| 0:27.6 | Yeah, where it all started. |
| 0:28.6 | That same bridge I used to smuggle stairways across. |
| 0:31.6 | And I meet him. |
| 0:34.6 | Six Sikarios. |
| 0:35.6 | We meet at this restaurant. |
| 0:37.5 | He has six Sicarias with him. |
| 0:38.9 | You're the first person to ask for my hand fidget as well over there. |
| 0:54.6 | So I feel like we're matched up today. I like it. You got to have big forearms. Chicks love forearms. They do like forearms. They do like them. But dude, how's it adjusting back to life? I mean, you've only been out, what, like seven months? Seven months, yeah. You know, it's a slow and steady crawl. Right. And then I finally stood up after I got out of the halfway house and started walking again. |
| 1:13.6 | It was a slow and steady crawl. Right. And then I finally stood up after I got out of the halfway house and started walking again. |
| 1:13.6 | It was a strange feeling, right? |
| 1:15.6 | I had this girl that's been with me the last 10 years in prison and she says, I'm delivering |
| 1:24.6 | you mastros and delivering me, Mastros. I said, that's a steak, Beverly Hills. She goes, go outside. And this is when I was staying at the halfway house. And I go outside and she goes, you got Uber Eats. I said, what the fuck is Uber Eats? She goes, yeah, they're out there. They got a steak dinner for you. I said, what are you talking about? I've never heard of this. I Uber Eats. What the fuck is Uber Eats? I go out and the guy brings me a master's steak and fucking buttercakes in there. And I'm like, holy shit, what's this world coming to, right? It got a little more convenient since you left. And then she had a package come and she says, hey, I got you a set of Bluetooth. I said, what's Bluetooth? And she's like, I did Amazon Prime. It's going to get there tomorrow. I'm like, what the fuck's Amazon Prime, right? Like, yeah. And she's laughing. I'm like, what are you laughing about? She goes, that's what we use now. It it's next day and like holy shit so now i learned |
| 2:17.9 | about next day amazon prime i learned about bluetooth and i learned about uber eats and in less than 24 |
| 2:24.2 | hours right when i got out that's a good start dude and then i started scrolling through social |
| 2:28.4 | media which i haven't had right i'm checking out all these hot chicks i'm clicking on them and |
| 2:33.5 | they got this thing called only fans i'm I'm like, what the fuck is OnlyFans, right? And like, this is crazy. And this is the new world we live in. It is definitely like, because I don't have a concept of it because it all happens gradually over time when you're out here in the world. But you were, you were going for what, 10 years in prison? Yeah, about nearly 10 years. I mean, when you're just completely turned off like that, it is really a snap because it, I mean, it goes from when you were gone away. It's like people are still on Facebook and now it's like Instagram's old news. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? It's just way different. Probably before your age was MySpace. |
| 3:12.4 | You know, I remember when I was in like fourth grade and MySpace came out. You put like your top friends on the. |
| 3:13.7 | Yep. |
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