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The Art of Manliness

#404: What Men Can Learn From Wolves

The Art of Manliness

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

4.714.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2018

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Between 1991 and 1996, Jim and Jamie Dutcher lived with and filmed a pack of wolves in Idaho. From this intensive field work came the award-winning documentary, "Wolves at Our Door." The husband and wife team are out with a new book that highlights some of the things they learned on living a flourishing life from the wolf pack they were embedded within. It’s called "The Wisdom of Wolves: Lessons from the Sawtooth Pack." Jim and Jamie share what wolves can teach us about family, respecting your elders, play, the importance of belonging to a group, leadership, and what it really means to be an alpha wolf. Tune in for a fascinating conversation on a fascinating creature that has much to teach us humans. Get the full show notes at aom.is/wisdomofwolves.

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0:00.0

We're at McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness podcast between 1991 and 1996.

0:20.0

Jim and Jamie Dutcher lived with and filmed a pack of wolves in Idaho.

0:24.0

From this intensive field work came the award-winning documentary Wolves at our door.

0:27.6

The husband and wife team are out with a new book that highlights some of the things they learn on limiting flourishing life

0:32.2

in the wolf pack they were embedded within. It's called The Wisdom of Wolves.

0:35.3

Jim and Jamie share what wolves can teach us about family, respecting your elders, play, the importance of belonging to a group, leadership, and what it really means to be an alpha wolf.

0:42.6

Tune in for a fascinating conversation on a fascinating creature that has much to teach us humans.

0:46.7

After shows over, check out the show notes at a.o.m.s slash wisdom of wolves.

0:50.4

And Jim and Jamie join me now via Skype.

0:57.6

Jim and Jamie Dutcher welcome to the show.

1:04.6

Well thank you so much for having us Brett.

1:06.6

Yeah thank you very much.

1:08.6

So you two recently published a book The Wisdom of Wolves and this is based on a project you all did back in the 90s.

1:15.6

You filmed from 1991 to 1996 a pack of wolves and it's called The Sawtooth Pack. Let's start for the background of that. What was the impetus behind the project of filming a pack of wolves for such a long time too?

1:38.6

Well I've been a filmmaker that specializes in animals that you just don't get to see in the wild.

1:45.6

Mountain lions, beavers, undersea subjects, and after finishing a successful film on mountain lions, we put together a proposal with ABC television to do a special on wolves.

2:00.6

But you just can't go out and find a pack of wolves and film them in a meaningful way.

2:07.6

I mean you can but they're so far away, they're so intelligent that they change their behavior and run away.

2:14.6

We wanted to be able to get into their lives, into their social lives.

2:19.6

So we set this project up with puppies, bottle feed them from the moment they opened their eyes and camped with them for six years afterwards.

2:29.6

But we gained their trust by being with them from the moment they realized they were here in this planet.

2:37.6

And where did you all get the wolf pups from, the initial wolf pups?

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