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404. Does the President Matter as Much as You Think?

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🗓️ 6 February 2020

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

We asked this same question nearly a decade ago. The answer then: probably not. But a lot has changed since then, and we’re three years into one of the most anomalous presidencies in American history. So once again we try to sort out presidential signal from noise. What we hear from legal and policy experts may leave you surprised, befuddled — and maybe infuriated.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Now that the presidential primaries are finally underway, which means that rather than taking

0:08.2

up 90% of your daily news coverage, the election will now take up 100%.

0:12.8

There is a question I think is worth asking.

0:15.4

But let me say this, you probably won't think this question is worth asking.

0:20.4

You'll probably think this question is dumber than dumb, a waste of neurons.

0:25.6

The question we first asked in Freakonomics land back when George W. Bush was president,

0:30.3

then again during the Obama era, and here we are now in the age of Trump, with a president

0:35.7

who's just been impeached, no less.

0:37.5

And yet, the question we want to ask today is this.

0:41.8

How much does the president of the United States really matter?

0:48.4

I fully recognize this may not sound like a sensible question, but the answer is too obvious.

0:53.6

So why do I think it's worth asking?

0:56.4

Because we humans aren't always so good at understanding cause and effect.

1:01.6

Intellectually, you know this.

1:03.5

We talk all the time on this show about how the relationship between X and Y isn't always

1:08.4

what it seems.

1:10.1

Other less obvious factors may be important, but emotionally, that's a different story.

1:15.7

Emotionally, we tend to be drawn to clean, simple explanations of cause and effect, even

1:21.7

if the reality is more nuanced.

1:25.2

This may be a form of mythical reductionism.

1:29.1

We love our heroes and our villains.

1:33.2

So if you happen to hate a particular president and I ask you how much does the president

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