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401(k) vs. Brokerage Account: Which Is Better for Retirement Savings? Plus, the National Debt Explained

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Business, Education, Investing, How To

4.2 • 665 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Learn about the U.S. national debt and how it impacts economics and what options to explore if your employer-offered 401k plan seems limiting.  What exactly does it mean when you read about the enormous national debt in the United States? What options do you have if you’re not happy with the 401k plan offered by your employer? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola dig into investing options with NerdWallet personal finance lead writer June Sham. But first, NerdWallet senior news writer Anna Helhoski joins the show to break down what exactly is the national debt, who does the U.S. owe, and why it matters to everyday Americans.  Next, Sean, Elizabeth and June answer a listener’s question about whether it’s worth it to invest in their employee-offered 401k plan even if it feels limiting. The Nerds explain the pros and cons of a 401k as well as alternative options to explore, including a brokerage account or an IRA, and why you don’t have to limit yourself to just one type of account.  NerdWallet’s list of best IRA accounts: https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/ira-accounts Choose the best retirement plan: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/best-retirement-plans-for-you  In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: national debt, what is the national debt, how much is the US in debt, US debt ceiling explained, difference between debt and deficit, publicly held debt, intragovernmental debt, who owns the US debt, debt to GDP ratio, US debt crisis, what happens if the US defaults, national debt impact on economy, foreign holders of US debt, Congressional Budget Office debt projections, US budget deficit, treasury securities explained, debt ceiling vs national debt, federal spending and tax revenue, 401k vs brokerage account, should I invest in a 401k without a match, 401k managed by insurance company, 401k fees and disclosure rules, retirement investment options, Roth IRA vs 401k, traditional 401k benefits, taxable brokerage account vs 401k, 401k contribution limits 2025, early 401k withdrawal penalties, required minimum distributions 401k, investment fees and expense ratios, choosing a Roth IRA provider, best retirement account for long-term growth, retirement planning tips, comparing retirement accounts, 401k rollover options, best Roth IRA accounts 2025. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected]. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.2

Confession time. How much debt are you carrying right now? If you don't want to share the details,

0:36.4

can you at least confirm it's not

0:38.0

trillions of dollars? Well, the U.S. government cannot say that. It's currently more than

0:43.1

$36.2 trillion in the whole. And today, we're going to hear how that happened, how serious

0:50.1

it is, and what it means to our personal finances.

0:58.1

Thank you. it is and what it means to our personal finances. Welcome to NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast, where you send us your money questions and we answer them with the help of our genius nerds.

1:05.3

Sean will join us in the later half of this episode where we're answering a listener's question about investing in their

1:11.2

401k accounts and whether it's cool that an insurance company is in charge of managing it.

1:16.4

But first, our weekly money news roundup where we break down the latest in the world of finance

1:21.5

to help you be smarter with your money. Our news colleague, Ana Helhofsky, is here to talk about

1:27.1

the large financial whole the country is in and what it means for all of us.

1:31.5

Hey, Anna.

1:32.4

Hey, Elizabeth.

1:33.4

We're going to be answering two listener questions today.

1:36.8

And this first one is asking for a bit of an explainer.

1:40.7

They wrote,

1:41.3

Hi, nerds.

1:42.4

Could you attempt to explain how we got into trillions of dollars of national debt?

1:47.2

When was the last time we were in a surplus?

1:49.4

Who exactly are we in debt to?

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