I'm so excited. It's like a true crime takeover show. It's the best show of my life.

You don't even care. I love it. It's like my favorite.

You're talking about like bong rips from assholes.

Is that appropriate?

Jim doesn't mind. He's retired. He doesn't have like, you know, you don't have the same standards.

Not a cat's buy. Hey, Brach every day. She'll make you say, you don't have the same standards. Not a cat's body.

Great. Every day. She's got the scoop. I'm pop culture news. So grab a friend today. What You Say? It's Sarah and the crew. There you go. It's what you say, right? It's not what you say. It's what you do. Right. Okay. Thank you. Oh my God. It's only taking me, what are we on?

Four years, four years of this darn podcast.

You guys, welcome to the hay for each podcast we have new shows every single monday and wednesday we stream live to youtube and then of course you can pick up the podcast on spotify on itunes google play everywhere the podcasts are released um i'm your host as i mentioned sarah frasier along with my dear friend, my co-host, I'm in love with her.

AJ on the mic. She's amazing. You seem like you're getting the energy again. Hey, Sarah Bear. I know. Right before the show, I go super low energy. And then as soon as I hear the music, I just like get a jolt. Oh, good. Okay. You were like, you okay over there?

Well, I always, you know, Mondays are really tough.

Like you really don't clock in until about 2 o'clock, which is ironic. Like, it's hard for me to be a boss to you because like, like, I always set out on Monday morning. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to have a list for her. Like, we are really going to, she's going to be on time. We are doing this. And then, like, she rolls in, like, an hour later. And she's like, I'm really sorry.

I've had several radio interviews.

You know, I didn't get home last night until one in the morning. Because I drove back, and Iggy's dog was, like, all over the car crap three times. We had to pull over in New Jersey. It's like, all right, it's fine. That all happened. Yes. I know. I know, I know. I thought it always does.

Did we get kind of a lot down this morning or no?

We were kind of... No, we did, we did. Look, it's a very huge week for us. A couple things. I'm really excited about today's show. We kind of teased it. But today on the show is a guy that I just really admire named Jim Trainum. He's a former D.C. homicide detective here in Washington, D.C. for many, many years. You've also probably seen him on a lot of popular shows. He's done a lot of true crime

shows. And then he's... former D.C. homicide detective here in Washington, D.C. for many, many years. You've also

probably seen him on a lot of popular shows. He's done a lot of true crime shows. And then he's

also the author of the book, How the Police Generate False Confessions. I really wanted to

have Jim on today because I've sort of talked about my obsession with when they see us, the Ava

Duvernay documentary on Netflix.

Oprah just sat down.

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