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The Tim & April Show

40. No Rights for You: MAGA Christian Nationalists Attack Women & LGBTQ Rights

The Tim & April Show

The New Evangelicals

News, News Commentary, Christianity, Politics, Religion & Spirituality

51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In today's special live episode, April brings on Promise Backlund. They explore the complexities of friendship between a Christian and an atheist, delve into the rise of Christian nationalism, and critique the controversial views of figures like Doug Wilson and Kim Davis. Promise's Instagram | @Eve_wasframed Chapters 07:11 Exploring Doug Wilson and Christian Nationalism 17:59 The Role of Women in Doug Wilson's Vision 27:05 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism 32:45 The Intersection of Politics and Religion 49:35 Weird Christian Beliefs and Their Implications ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals Tim on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠@Timwhitakerspeaks⁠⁠⁠ April on Instagram | ⁠⁠⁠@Aprilajoy⁠⁠⁠ The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:48.6

The Tim and April show, where we unravel faith, politics, and culture.

1:13.0

Hello. Hello. Welcome everybody to the Tim and April show. I am April and I am joined by one of my real life friends. She does amazing content. If you're in any sort of deconstruction space, I'm sure you've seen her pop up sometimes.

1:16.5

She's probably most known for being an atheist, though.

1:19.5

An evil, angry atheist.

1:30.0

I'm so grateful you allowed me to be here today despite my fast ticket to hell that I have right now. I mean, we all need that one friend who's worse than us, right? I'm just kidding. But Promise Backland is here. She's also known as Eve was

1:36.7

framed online. And welcome, Promise, to the Tim and April Show. Thank you. I love this.

1:45.0

I'm so excited to get to hang out with you for work.

1:48.0

We usually are just being friends, despite people thinking that we're faking that.

1:52.8

Yeah, we do get a lot of comments because we've made some jokey videos of like a Christian and atheist, walk into a bar.

1:59.2

Or I've quizzed you before on, you know, the demon horns that

2:04.4

appear if I sprinkle holy water on you and all of these things.

2:08.1

And if you eat babies, which obviously you do as an atheist.

2:12.3

But it's all in jest.

2:13.8

And then there's always people in the comments, really from Christians and atheists that

2:18.7

are like, y'all can't be friends.

2:20.0

Fully. You're not real.

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