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So basically changing the law in a way that there is no problems of exchanging information

and cooperating across states through the federal level is a very good step.

I think you get more bang for the buck when you actually focus on resilience other than

active cyber defense or hackback operations.

Hi everyone and welcome to our new episode of CyberPod EU. Today I'm very glad to welcome Sven

Helpich as my guest. Swen has a ton of experience in the cyber security field, especially when it comes to state security in the cyberspace.

He is the head of international cyber security policy for the Stiftung Neuefer Antwoeltung, so the new responsibility in Germany.

And additionally, he is among others part of the advisory board BSE Congress and

advisory board member of the EU cyber diplomacy initiative so the European Union Cyber

Direct I think that's that there is no doubt that Sven has a ton of experience in

the cyber security sector but hello, Swen.

I'm really happy to have you here.

How are you today?

Greg, thanks for having me.

Now, it's a beautiful day.

I'm really happy to be invited here to talk with you a bit about German and maybe international

cybersecurity policy.

Definitely.

Thank you very much.

We always try to find the right experts in the German market, from the German market, but also from European level as well. And in the cyber sec, or even the whole IT sector, you are constantly talking about the increasing complexity of systems and compliance frameworks, which makes it difficult to manage them.

In order to keep the overview,

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