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This is CBS. I'm John Batch.

Sir, my conversation with Sean McMeacon, Professor of Bard College, author of the new book, Stalin's War.

This is a tour of the familiar territory, 1939 to 1948 from the point of view of Moscow.

There are however puzzles.

One of the puzzles we've bypassed, but I want to come back because it's not all on FDR telling himself this will work out.

It's also Winston Churchill.

Sean, who are the Chetniks?

Who is McCullough itch?

What is Churchill make of the presentation he's given by the BBC and other Czechist agents in London?

That he should side with the wrong people in Yugoslavia.

Well, I do think Churchill at times during the war would put up at least a little bit more fight than Roosevelt did on some questions in strategy, but not in Yugoslavia.

I mean, this is definitely a good one to single out where I think Churchill really was Hoodwinked.

Now, to be fair, to Churchill, there was some evidence and some of it was uncovered by British intelligence, the so-called Nygba D. Crips, that Mihailovich, who was this officer in the former Yugoslav army,

who was the legatee of the Yugoslav government in exile in London, who led the Chetniks, this kind of group of rebels who took to the hills and tried to resist the Nazis after the Germans invaded Yugoslavia in April 1941.

Now, Mihailovich, like his counterpart on the left, Brawz or Tito, who was of course answering to Stalin, at times during the war would have to negotiate various kind of deals with either the Italian occupying authorities,

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