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4/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA Hardcover – October 17, 2023 by Liza Mundy (Author)

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🗓️ 19 January 2024

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4/8: The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA Hardcover – October 17, 2023
by Liza Mundy (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Sisterhood-Secret-History-Women-CIA/dp/0593238176/ref=asc_df_0593238176&mcid=d8b024f8944a3cfb869a04c0b84ba964?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80608071597838&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584207596928557&psc=1

Created in the aftermath of World War II, the Central Intelligence Agency relied on women even as it attempted to channel their talents and keep them down. Women sent cables, made dead drops, and maintained the agency’s secrets. Despite discrimination—even because of it—women who started as clerks, secretaries, or unpaid spouses rose to become some of the CIA’s shrewdest operatives.

They were unlikely spies—and that’s exactly what made them perfect for the role. Because women were seen as unimportant, pioneering female intelligence officers moved unnoticed around Bonn, Geneva, and Moscow, stealing secrets from under the noses of their KGB adversaries. Back at headquarters, women built the CIA’s critical archives—first by hand, then by computer. And they noticed things that the men at the top didn’t see. As the CIA faced an identity crisis after the Cold War, it was a close-knit network of female analysts who spotted the rising threat of al-Qaeda—though their warnings were repeatedly brushed aside.

After the 9/11 attacks, more women joined the agency as a new job, targeter, came to prominence. They showed that data analysis would be crucial to the post-9/11 national security landscape—an effort that culminated spectacularly in the CIA’s successful effort to track down bin Laden in his Pakistani compound.

Propelled by the same meticulous reporting and vivid storytelling that infused Code Girls, The Sisterhood offers a riveting new perspective on history, revealing how women at the CIA ushered in the modern intelligence age, and how their silencing made the world more dangerous.

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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor with Liza Mundi.

0:07.0

Her new book is The Sisterhood, The Secret History of Women at the CIA.

0:11.0

It's also a history of the CIA.

0:13.4

So you can see the mission after the fall of the Soviet Union was unknown.

0:18.5

It didn't have a clear way of this is what we're for.

0:21.4

20,000 people working at Langley with a reputation of James Bonds.

0:26.0

But Smirch is gone, Carl is gone, Moscow Center's gone, What do we do now? Well, Heidi had seen it and Malta, but now we go to something

0:38.4

called the CTC, the Counterterrorism Center, whichiza you introduces having a faded carpet what was it?

0:47.0

The Counterterrorism Center was a very small office just as you say at headquarters the CIA that was created in the

0:56.4

mid 1980s just as you say Heidi August handled a terrorist hijacking on the island of Malta.

1:05.0

And those of us who were adults in the 1980s,

1:08.0

remember this period of hijackings,

1:10.0

the Achilles-Laro, certainly the explosion of Pan Am 103 over Law Herby, Scotland.

1:15.7

There was a terrifying series of terrorist incidents

1:18.7

in the mid-1980s.

1:20.0

When the Cold War was still was still very much the central mission of the CIA and and

1:27.7

the CIA and the United States in general didn't know how to handle these target

1:32.4

jacking didn't know how to handle these target jacking didn't know how to address

1:34.6

terrorism which is different from fighting communism and and so Heidi decided to

1:41.0

make this her mission in life was to find a way to deal with these hijackings

1:48.1

which were resulting in the deaths of children and

1:53.7

just ordinary civilians. You know, that the willingness of terrorists in the

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