4.25.25 CRU with Nancy Grace: What Happened to Ellen? An American Miscarriage of Justice

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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4.4 • 696 Ratings

🗓️ 25 April 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Today Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the tragic death of Ellen Greenberg, a first-grade teacher whose death was ruled a suicide, even though the evidence points to murder. Nancy Grace breaks down the major red flags, including troubling forensic details and mistakes made by the Philadelphia police. The duo also discuss the Bryan Kohberger case, where the defense plans to use autism as part of their legal strategy and what that could mean for the trial.

Nancy’s book: What Happened to Ellen?: An American Miscarriage of Justice is available now. All proceeds will go to National Center for Missing and Exploited Children - NCMC

Show Notes:

(0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup
(1:00) The autism defense in court - The Bryan Kohberger
(5:30) The Ellen Greenberg case
(9:30) Ellen’s final day
(15:00) The closed-door meeting
(17:30) Politics, immunity, and the missing video
(22:00) Closing thoughts

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases.

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy:

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice.

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X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Crime Roundup.
0:11.3	I'm Cheryl McCollum, and as always, we have Miss Nancy Grace.
0:17.3	Morning, honey.
0:18.2	That wasn't your usual grand entrance. What's up with you? You'll
0:23.7	me to redo it because I can. Y'all, welcome to the Crime Roundup. I'm Cheryl McCollum,
0:30.6	and we are joined by the incredible, fantastic, and beautiful Nancy Grace.
0:39.0	Okay, that's so fake now.
0:40.9	I'm never going to believe another word you say.
0:42.8	It's not fake.
0:44.5	I've got so much to tell you.
0:49.0	Okay, first of all, the book is out this week about Ellen Greenberg. All proceeds go into National Center missing, exploited children.
0:53.2	And here's my big question.
0:55.2	She was planning the wedding.
0:57.3	How did that wedding turn into a funeral?
1:00.4	I just, but before that, can I tell you about Brian Coburger, the bane of my existence?
1:08.8	Okay, so the judge, this judge Hippler is so great.
1:15.0	He's just so down to earth.
1:17.9	He's like, okay, you know what?
1:19.6	I've been watching him for about a year now.
1:22.6	And I don't see any oddities or quirks in his behavior.
1:26.1	So if you want to claim autism, feel free
1:29.6	with him on the stand. And up until then, no. And I thought about that for a long time.
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