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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

4.11.25 CRU with Nancy Grace: Will Rex Heuermann’s House Be Demolished? Inside Lori Vallow’s Legal Gamble

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of "Zone 7," Nancy Grace and Sheryl McCollum discuss the latest developments in the Rex Heuermann and Lori Vallow cases.

 Sheryl checks in live from the Hamptons, describing the quiet tension in a neighborhood trying to move on. She talks about Rex Heuermann’s house, now partially hidden as the family packs up and prepares to leave. Nancy and Sheryl question what this move means—whether it’s the first step toward tearing the house down—and why that could pose a problem for the trial.

They stress the importance of jurors seeing the space where the crimes occurred to fully understand the case.

Nancy then shifts to the latest on Lori Vallow. Representing herself, Lori faces charges for the murders of her children and former husband.

Nancy and Sheryl walk through the case and explain how Lori’s unusual behavior and beliefs played a role in the crimes.

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Show Notes:

  • (0:00) Welcome! Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
  • (1:00) Rex Heuermann’s case latest 
  • (7:00) Why preserving evidence matters 
  • (10:00) Sheryl describes the signs in the neighborhood of Rex Heuermann
  • (11:30) Lori Vallow's trial and family dynamics 
  • (13:45)  ”A man that represents himself has the fool for her client, and that is for sure.”  
  • (17:00) The Chad Daybell connection 
  • (20:00) Sex appeal in the courtroom - debating the jury’s bias 
  • (25:00) Final thoughts and wrap up 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram: @thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: [email protected]

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to a historic crime roundup in the Hamptons. Good morning, Sugar. Well, good morning. Let me just

0:17.6

clarify, you are recording live from the Billy Joel and the Hamptons.

0:22.4

I'm sorry, the Hamptons is too rich for my blood.

0:24.8

I'm a working girl.

0:26.1

I can't afford the Hamptons, but you can't right ahead, Cheryl.

0:31.2

I'd give anything if you're sitting right here.

0:34.3

This whole town looks like a movie set.

0:36.5

It just doesn't even look real. It's beautiful.

0:39.0

I went there a few times, well, actually several times for various events like charity events,

0:46.7

you know, when all the rich people get together and they'll drink really expensive wine and champagne

0:51.9

and have little bitty, extremely tiny hors d'oeuvres.

0:54.6

I starved, okay?

0:57.0

And then they raise money for very good causes.

0:59.9

So I would drive out there for various charity functions.

1:03.7

And I'm telling you, the houses were like out of magazines.

1:09.0

Absolutely.

1:10.1

I mean, I have just had the best time just driving around.

1:13.0

Well, I definitely felt like a dog upstairs. I knew I was not supposed to be there. And I was just

1:19.7

walking around looking at everything. Of course, by the time I jumped on their beds and tried on all

1:24.6

their clothes, I was ready to go home. Loved it. That is priceless.

1:30.2

So I heard or remember that you were skulking around Rex Heerman's place.

1:33.9

I was. So yesterday got to drive by there. Nancy, I was thinking pictures, but he has put lattice up all in the front blocking the porch in the front door so they can

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