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The Symbolic World

395 - Beauty First: Envisioning a Civilization Worth Restoring (ARC Roundtable)

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

This is an informal roundtable discussion among friends and artists at the 2025 London ARC Conference that includes myself, Andrew Gould, Aidan Hart, Heather Pollington, Neil and Kate DeGraide from Dirt Poor Robins, Ben and Vesper Stamper, Martin Shaw, and John Heers. Amidst thousands of voices focused on policy and economics, we stepped aside to ask a deeper question: what does it mean to renew civilization through beauty?
Together, we explore how architecture, music, and the arts shape our perception of the world—and how the recovery of beauty might be essential for healing both culture and soul. There are no scripts here, just a shared sense of wonder, frustration, and conviction. We speak of cities and forests, temples and toasts, tradition and imagination… and what it truly means to see rightly again.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

It's been now several months since the ARC conference in London.

0:05.2

And in retrospect, there are a lot of things to think about, a lot of things that happened.

0:10.0

One of the great things that happened at this conference was that I was able to invite a whole bunch of artists, including a large group of Orthodox artists.

0:20.0

And so Andrew Gould, who is an amazing building designer,

0:22.6

has been on my channel before,

0:23.9

had the idea of doing a roundtable

0:25.5

where we would talk about the possibility of saving civilization,

0:29.6

but not from a political lens,

0:31.4

but really from a art and culture lens.

0:35.0

And so it was a great conversation late at night

0:38.0

with some wonderful people.

0:39.1

And I think you will definitely enjoy this. This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

0:57.0

Hello everyone. We're here at the ARC conference in London. There's 4,000 people at this conference,

1:13.6

but there were quite a few very interesting Orthodox artists present, so I thought,

1:17.6

let's gather us together and do a little roundtable discussion about the renewal of civilization from an arts and culture standpoint.

1:25.6

We have here artist and illustrator, Heather Pallington, Martin Shaw, author, mystic,

1:33.3

Hermit, Jonathan.

1:35.3

I mean, I have a hard.

1:38.3

We forgot poet.

1:39.3

Very good.

1:40.3

Jonathan Peugeot, Eichon Carver, one's the symbolic world publishing company.

1:46.0

We have Ben Stamper, filmmaker,

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