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The Symbolic World

394 - The World War II Consensus is Breaking Down

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Several years ago, I coined the phrase “watch the fool,” because in a world turned upside down, the fool can strangely point to what’s coming and in some ways play a role in restoring order —for good or for ill. For April 2025’s patron video, now opened up to the public, I reflect on how Kanye West has continued to play this role. He is not a prophet in the traditional sense, but a kind of tuning fork, embodying the contradictions and transformations unfolding in our culture before they happen. This becomes increasingly disturbing as the post–World War II consensus buckles beneath our feet…

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/MfXxQW77cQA

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0:00.0

This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So several years ago, I coined this frame,

0:29.2

Watch the Fool.

0:31.4

And, you know, the purpose of saying that,

0:35.3

I think I said that in 2017, maybe, or maybe 2018, I'm not sure.

0:40.4

And so when I started saying that, what I wanted people to be able to do is to watch

0:45.9

the fool in, especially in a world that was top-de-turvy and upside down, because this is

0:52.2

a way that my brother, Mattier frames it, is that when the world

0:55.0

is upside down, the fool is the one that in some ways can give you a sign of what is coming,

1:02.0

can in some ways restore the world, you know, restore the world right side up. Now, when you say

1:06.9

right side up, it doesn't mean it's not a question of morals it's a question of a return

1:11.7

to order right how in some ways the the madness of the moment in the the fool is kind of joking and

1:18.4

turning and at the end he becomes a he becomes a victim of his own ploy and then he kind of

1:26.1

almost inadvertently restores things in the right side up. Okay. So I started

1:35.4

saying that a while ago at 2019 when I saw that I think it was 2018 or 2019 when when our certain

1:42.7

Kanye West put out an album called Jesus is King, I kind of could tell.

1:47.6

And I've been telling people to watch this particular person because he has a weird, he's like a weird tuning fork.

1:58.1

He's someone who catches what is coming. he's a kind of inadvertent mystic you

2:03.9

could say he's able to I don't think he does it on purpose but he kind of is able to sense what

2:11.9

is happening and and sense what is coming in the future and is manifesting it usually in a rather contradictory way.

2:19.6

But nonetheless, this is how his life seems to proceed.

2:25.2

It doesn't seem to always be good for his own soul.

2:28.1

But, you know, if you watch him, you can kind of see what's coming.

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