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Hello and welcome to another edition of MormonStories podcast. I'm your host John DeLin. It is 2013,

so happy new year to everyone who's listening, who's within the sound of our virtual voice.

This recording is on January 2nd, and I have with me somebody that I've known and respected

in many ways for over two decades. His name is Dr. or Professor Ralph Hancock. He was a professor

while I was at BYU, getting my degree in political science. He was on the faculty there,

and I was also privileged to have the experience of being a teaching assistant in the kind of famous

and for some infamous American heritage class that BYU has offered now for decades as well.

That I believe has started either by Frank Fox or someone before him, but at some point in that

time, Dr. Hancock was tapped to teach sections of the course and honor sections as well. So I was

able to actually be a teaching assistant to Dr. Hancock. And most importantly, I was able to play

basketball with Dr. Hancock in BYU in a mural basketball, and he was quite a basketball player,

which Phil Barlow discusses, I don't know if you discusses that, I'm an interview with him, but

but I've talked to Phil about his epic days of basketball war in Boston with Ralph Hancock

back at Harvard. Do you remember those days, Dr. Hancock? Oh, sure. Well, by all accounts that I've

used to be quite a spirited basketball player. Actually, I haven't given it up all together,

but I'm glad you remembered that part of our association, and I had recruited, I think three very tall

youth to be on this intermural team with me. And that wasn't too bad. That was some fun. And

I wouldn't claim to have had a complete game, but I had a step in the day, Johnny had to admit.

It was fun. And Phil Barlow remembers him as being a defensive specialist in you as being an

offensive specialist. Yeah, we got matched up a lot. My, seems like my chin and his elbow were

involved in a lot of our matchups, but that's just a one-sided memory of the situation.

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