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39: PREVIEW: Social Security Reform: Capping Benefits for the Wealthiest Guest: Veronique De Rugy Veronique De Rugy discusses the looming Social Security deadline set for 2033, when the program faces a funding shortfall, and potential campaign responses durin

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW: Social Security Reform: Capping Benefits for the Wealthiest

Guest: Veronique De Rugy

Veronique De Rugy discusses the looming Social Security deadline set for 2033, when the program faces a funding shortfall, and potential campaign responses during the 2028 election cycle. De Rugy proposes a reform method she believes can be easily sold to the American people without raising taxes or causing inflation. Her specific proposal invites all Americans, from wealthy to poor, to share in solving the problem by capping benefits for those with the most money and the least need for the program. By capping benefits for the wealthiest seniors, the biggest beneficiaries would see the largest reductions, while those who truly need the program would see no cuts. She notes that today's seniors are generally doing much better financially than when the program was originally created.
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This is John Batchel, colleague Veronique de Rijee, looking ahead to the 2028 campaign.

0:22.3

And what are the major candidates going to say in response to, what are you going to do about

0:26.3

the deadline, the drop deadline for Social Security, which is 2033 in your time zone?

0:34.2

What are you going to do about it?

0:36.1

And what we're looking at here is an answer that is not

0:39.9

obvious. However, Verenaic comes up with a presentation to the American people that she believes

0:46.3

would move. In other words, not inflation, not raising taxes, none of the demands that can be placed on the Social Security Fund when it runs out of money,

0:59.7

but an invitation to the American people to share in solving the problem from the rich to the poor.

1:06.3

Here's Verenique to regime, much more of this tonight.

1:09.4

The drop-dead date for social security is 2033 or

1:12.8

earlier on the basis of the big beautiful bill tax cuts it could be much earlier haven't calculated

1:21.4

that yet very neat so well i mean but they could say they could say this is this is a benefit

1:27.0

this is this is a system that doesn't make much sense today. Again, seniors are are doing so much better than when the program was created and we're going to cut benefits for the people who really actually mostly don't rely on the program.

1:47.8

And we don't have to cut them entirely out of the system.

1:51.6

We can cap the benefits.

1:53.2

It means that the biggest beneficiaries with the most money will actually get a bigger cut.

2:03.2

And then a lot of the people who actually really need the program will see no cuts. That's the kind of reform. I think that you can sell to the American

2:08.8

people very easily. The weather. Tomorrow, expect a biting cold front. Hmm, how naughty. I wonder what I'll be wearing or taking off.

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