Hi, I'm Todd Nathanson.

And I'm Danny Roth.

And with us today, one, see Robert Cargill, you may know him as the screenwriter for Sinister, for Dr. Strange, or as a novelist in his own right, or as a critic, previously a movie critic for Ain't It Cool News.

He's a real hope for all of us critics that we might someday do something good and interesting

with our lives.

You won't.

Hi, everybody.

Thank you guys for having me.

Thank you for agreeing to be on the show, Mr. Cargill, sir.

Everybody just calls me Cargill.

Let's just go with that.

Okay.

Well, since we had you, our big name celebrity on the show, we decided we're going to go big this week with our song versus song.

This week we are doing one of the big ones.

This is like the kind of thing that this show was invented to cover.

We are doing everybody, parentheses, backstreet's back by the backstreet boys,

versus buy, by, by Insync.

Where do you guys stand in the BSB versus Insync Wars of 1999-ish?

That's a good question.

See, to me, the real question, since I think we're all kind of within a four-year span of each other age-wise, is when these bands came around the first time in the late 90s, did any of us like them or were we haters?

Oh, I was absolutely a hater.

These were dark times.

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