388. How Gender Affects Your Ideals | Greg Lukianoff and Rikki Schlott

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🗓️ 16 October 2023

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Dr. Jordan B Peterson sits down with Greg Lukianoff and Rikki Schlott to discuss the inception of their new book, “The Canceling of the American Mind,” which seeks to assess cancel culture as it harshly affects American universities and institutions. They also break down the differences between feminine and masculine tendencies in regards to free speech, the entirely real and yet rarely discussed toxic femininity, and why we must prioritize a cultural shift away from the ease of victimhood. Greg Lukianoff is a journalist, producer, attorney, New York Times bestselling author, and the president and CEO of FIRE (Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression), which is the nation's leading defender of fundamental rights on college campuses. In 2022, FIRE announced they would expand their coverage to fundamental rights off-campus as well, and at this time added “Expression” to their name and mission statement. Rikki Schlott is a New York City-based journalist and political commentator. She is a former research fellow at FIRE, host of the Lost Debate podcast, a columnist at the New York Post, and a regular contributor to numerous publications and television programs. Her commentary focuses on free speech, campus culture, civil liberties, and youth issues from a Generation Z perspective. - Links - “The Canceling of the American Mind” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Canceling-American-Mind-Undermines-Threatens/dp/1668019140/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2KWJ4S9GF9BI0&keywords=the+cancelling+of+the+american+mind&qid=1697485877&sprefix=the+cancelling+of+the+american+mind%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-1 For Greg Lukianoff: FIRE Website https://www.thefire.org/about-us/our-team/greg-lukianoff On Twitter https://twitter.com/glukianoff?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/glukianoff/?hl=en On Substack https://greglukianoff.substack.com/ For Rikki Schlott: Website https://www.rikkischlott.com On Twitter https://twitter.com/rikkischlott On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/rikkischlott/ On Substack rikkischlott.substack.com

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0:00.0	Hello, everyone, watching and listening. Today, I'm speaking with Greg Lukinoff and Ricky
0:20.7	Shlott, co-authors of the new book, The Canceling of the American Mind. We discussed the
0:27.8	inception and inspiration of this new book, which seeks to assess cancel culture as it's
0:34.2	harshly affecting American universities and other institutions. We break down the difference
0:39.8	between feminine and masculine tendencies in regards to free speech, the entirely real
0:46.6	and yet rarely discussed phenomenon of toxic femininity and why we must prioritize a cultural
0:53.5	shift away from the ease of self-described victimhood. So you have a new book coming out on October
1:02.5	17th. This is recorded in 2023. October 17th, Canceling of the American Mind, authors Greg
1:10.2	Lukinoff and Ricky Shlott. So congratulations on that. Thank you so much. Why don't you start
1:17.4	by telling us a little bit about the book and why you guys are partnering together also to write
1:23.5	it? Yeah. Well, I think it's probably a little unusual for a 48-year-old and a 23-year-old to
1:28.9	be writing together, but I couldn't feel luckier than to get to work with Ricky Shlott. She's
1:33.7	absolutely brilliant. It was something that we knew right away when we saw her writing when she
1:38.0	was 19 and 20, but there was something very special about this young woman. So originally, Ricky
1:43.8	reached out to us because she wrote my book with Jonathan Hyte, Coddling of the American Mind,
1:48.8	and said, this is exactly right. This is exactly what I'm seeing in my own environment,
1:53.4	that the threats to free speech are also devastating to mental health. And she actually dropped
1:58.6	out of NYU in 2020, also during COVID, which I think is exactly the right move. Once you're
2:05.8	unlocked down, drop out, the defeats of major point of college. And originally, what we were
2:11.3	planning to do was write a book, or what I was considering doing, was writing a book that was
2:15.5	a follow-up to Coddling, even though canceling is a follow-up in a sense. Something that was
2:20.2	much more directly a follow-up, because it's me, the book was written by me and Jonathan Hyte,
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