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388- Business Leaders Who Get Tech Are Dangerous w/Tim Elhefnawy

You've Been Heard

Philip Howard

Technology, Tech News, News, Management, Business

5 • 49 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Tim Elhefnawy came from operations before technology leadership. That combination gives him a perspective most IT leaders don't have.He's watched tech leaders disconnect from the room in real time. Leading with technical objections when business needed risk discussion. Explaining integration test cycles that meant nothing to anyone while ignoring deal commitments.The pattern? IT leaders who practice the art of no. Who wait to be brought in instead of inserting themselves into strategy from day one. Who think delivering the tech piece is their job while someone else handles the business piece.That's not leadership. That's being a highly paid order taker.Tim's three-step playbook for real business outcomes:1. Understand the actual problem. Not the soundbite. Tim was told there was a physical delivery issue. He went to gemba. Talked to drivers. Talked to customers. What he was sold wasn't the problem—it was half truth. Skip this step and the project fails.2. Solution with the right people before giving timelines. Don't cave to "how fast?" Get the right folks together. Walk through it. Give feedback timely—don't boil the ocean trying to achieve perfection.3. Read back your understanding. The step everyone skips. Confirm you understood. Talk through solution ideas. Tim sees people have light conversations, say "yep we got it," then build the wrong thing.We also get into knowing when to apply rigor versus when to just do it. Adding a CRM field that affects no workflows takes 30 seconds. But Tim sees analysts spend hours on regression testing and full CAB process—for a field. The waste is massive when you can't navigate what should go left versus right.Tim's advice to every emerging IT leader?"Don't allow yourself to be siloed into just technology. Learning business is just as important. You're going to be an incomplete leader without it."Because how dangerous is a business leader who understands the market, the customer, and the technology?

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right.

0:10.7

You're coming in in a very special time where we have rebranded to,

0:16.1

you've been heard.

0:17.3

Why did we do that?

0:18.2

After 380 episodes, we realized something at the second

0:22.8

popular IT nerds, the past. We realized that some know that everyone knows, every single person

0:29.8

subconsciously whether they want to admit it or not, that nothing gets done in the company

0:33.8

without, i.e. touching it. Big surprise, right? Big surprise. But there's one

0:39.8

thing. There's one thing that keeps coming up over and over and over again. And I think you

0:45.7

are going to be a special guest to be able to do it because you've been VP of sales in the past.

0:49.8

And this one thing that keeps coming up over and over again is it's great that IT has a seat at

0:56.3

the executive roundtable, so to speak, but how much greater would it be to actually also be

1:04.5

heard? Any thoughts on that? Well, I think it's actually quite apt. When it comes to, and again, it depends on every different organization's maturity when it comes to technology and what their viewpoint is on technology.

1:18.1

Oftentimes you hear the whole spiel as if there's going to be all this planning and all this thinking that's going to go on to something strategically.

1:24.7

And that's just not reality.

1:26.4

And it's not reality anymore. And it's not reality anymore.

1:28.3

And it's important that any IT leader, any technology leader in general, embraces that.

1:34.8

Because you have to also then not only be respected and heard and put out there,

1:39.3

you have to put yourself out there to be effective at it, as well as to provide the value to

1:42.9

understand everything from the business use case to the tech. So to be effective at it, as well as provide the value to understand everything from the

1:44.8

business use case to the tech. So to be heard, you have to offer that voice that's worthy of

1:50.8

being heard just as much as they need to seek out that voice. So I think it's both pieces of that

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