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Hurdle with Emily Abbate

The Pursuit of Purpose: Gabby Thomas On How To Block Out External Critics, Curate Your Internal Dialogue & Define Success On Your Own Terms

Hurdle with Emily Abbate

iHeartPodcasts

Health & Fitness

51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

How do you transition from the world’s most promising talent to a triple Olympic gold medalist while balancing a Master’s? For Gabby Thomas, the path to Paris was paved with a refined commitment to her own longevity. After the intense physical toll of the Tokyo cycle and the subsequent seasons of high-stakes racing, Gabby opens up about the essential "choice to choose me"—the deliberate decision to prioritize her health, recovery, and mental wellness over the external pressure to constantly perform.

This shift wasn't just about physical rest; it was about building a sustainable foundation that allowed her to walk onto the track in Paris with a sense of calm that only comes from knowing your "why."

That intentionality resulted in a career-defining performance in 2024. Thomas cemented her status as the fastest woman in the world over 200 meters, taking home the individual gold in Paris along with two additional gold medals as a dominant force in the 4x100m and 4x400m relays. On this week's episode, we dive into how she manages the "mental load" of being a champion, the data-driven approach she takes to her health, and why her purpose in public health remains the north star for everything she does on the track.

IN THIS EPISODE

  • The emotional high of winning individual gold in Paris
  • Juggling Ivy League academics with elite track and field training
  • Why she pursued a Master’s in public health and how it shapes her worldview
  • Her "I’m choosing me first" mantra regarding health and recovery
  • The evolution of her mental toolkit and handling Olympic-level pressure
  • Her partnership with Amazfit and the role of data in her wellness routine
  • Looking ahead: Goals and dreams for the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics

QUOTABLE MOMENTS

On Purpose and Perspective

  • "It’s bigger than me. It’s about my purpose and what I want to show the younger generation."
  • "Success is not defined by the speed at which you reach your goals."

On Mental Health and Longevity

  • "I'm choosing me first. Health and longevity beat pressure and headlines every time."
  • "If you get caught up in needing to prove you belong, you've already lost the plot."

On Resilience

  • "Setbacks and rejections are all part of the journey and present valuable learning opportunities."
  • "My bronze in Tokyo was a testament to resilience after a year of personal setbacks."

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed human.

0:04.2

You have to be comfortable with not knowing what the outcome is going to be.

0:07.4

You can't go into it thinking, oh, I might not be good enough.

0:11.2

So it's not worth it, right?

0:12.7

The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

0:13.7

You can't go into26 with Hurtle,

0:35.6

a podcast featuring the mindset secrets and true stories of the most

0:39.1

inspiring women in sports and wellness, empowering you to live a healthier, happier,

0:43.4

more motivated life, and of course, conquer your own hurdles. Today's guest is the one,

0:49.6

the only three-time Olympic gold medalist and world-class sprinter, Gabby Thomas. Since her breakup

0:56.2

performance in Tokyo, Gabby's become one of the most recognizable faces in track and field.

1:01.6

But what makes her truly remarkable and why she's topped my dream guest list for so long

1:08.5

is the intentionality she brings to her life both on and off the track.

1:14.2

In today's conversation, Gabby opens up about the hurdle moments that defined her recent

1:18.7

season, including a challenging Achilles injury that forced her to make the difficult

1:23.0

decision to withdraw from the world championships. We also chat about her holistic identity,

1:28.6

how she balances being an elite athlete

1:30.6

with her passion for public health

1:32.2

and her work in volunteer clinics,

1:34.4

the power of boundaries and why she's learned

1:36.4

that saying no and protecting her peace

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