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384 NTSB News Talk podcast - Unpacking the Fatal Crash of a Citation Jet, N611VG Caused by Cabin Decompression

Aviation News Talk podcast

Glass Cockpit Publishing

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4.8 • 730 Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Max Trescott and Rob Mark launch the first episode of NTSB News Talk, diving into NTSB agency news, recent accidents and newly published NTSB reports to help pilots better understand accident causes and improve decision-making in the cockpit. Please help us improve the show by sending us your feedback here. To hear future episodes of NTSB News Talk, Follow or Subscribe to the show in your podcast app.

They begin with a surprising administrative shake-up: the unexplained termination of NTSB Vice Chairman Alvin Brown . Rob questions the lack of transparency, pointing out how an independent agency like the NTSB should not be subject to political scapegoating without clear justification. Max brings up that the NTSB is hiring .

Next, they turn to cockpit video recorders—a long-recommended safety item by the NTSB. While commercial pilots and unions resist them on privacy grounds, Max and Rob argue that video can play a vital role in understanding pilot behavior and causes of crashes, especially in general aviation where data is often limited. Rob references Matt Thurber’s editorial advocating for video recorders and highlights tools like CloudAhoy that already allow post-flight review.

The hosts then discuss several accidents. One involved a Cessna 207 in Alaska that crashed during a go-around, possibly due to a dog on the runway. They examine when it’s safer to land versus abort, and why go-around procedures—rarely practiced—are often poorly executed, even by experienced pilots.

Two Citabria crashes raise density altitude concerns. One near Big Creek, Idaho , ended with no survivors; the other, in Wyoming, occurred during a flight to spread ashes . A partial engine power loss, high terrain, and low climb capability proved fatal. Both hosts emphasize how critical it is for instructors to teach performance limitations in high-elevation operations, especially in underpowered aircraft.

Max talked about a Fireboss firefighting seaplane that ditched in the Atlantic, killing the pilot, while on a ferry flight to the Azores. He mentioned that experience ferry pilot Sarah Rovner talked in detail about ferry piloting issues in episode 379 of the Aviation News Talk podcast.

Another incident highlights poor weather decision-making. A Piper PA-28 crashed near Mount Equinox, Vermont after entering icing conditions in IMC. The non-instrument-rated pilot, traveling with family on a ski trip, stalled and crash-landed. The hosts explain how "get-there-itis" and poor weather avoidance can prove fatal, and caution against pressing on in marginal conditions—especially with passengers aboard.

The episode's deep dive analyzes the fatal accident of N611VG, a Citation 560 over Virginia. The pilot lost cabin pressure at high altitude and became incapacitated due to insufficient supplemental oxygen. The aircraft, operating Part 91, had numerous maintenance discrepancies—including an empty oxygen bottle and neglected pressurization issues. The pilot and passengers perished. Rob emphasizes that maintenance negligence is a silent killer, and guests aboard privately owned aircraft may have no idea about their true safety risks.

Max and Rob conclude with a discussion on high-altitude emergency procedures, including explosive decompression response. They urge pilots to practice rapid descents to VMO and recognize the signs of hypoxia before it’s too late. Finally, they encourage all pilots—regardless of experience—to schedule a flight review with an instructor to refresh skills like go-arounds and emergency descents.

This debut episode delivers clear, actionable safety lessons and insider insight into real-world aviation accidents. It’s a must-listen for pilots, CFIs, aircraft owners, and anyone serious about flight safety and learning from the NTSB’s findings.

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0:00.0

Hi, Max Prescott here with news about a new show I think you're going to want to listen to.

0:06.3

You've heard my friend Rob Mark on the Aviation News Talk podcast many times.

0:10.7

He's an award-winning aviation journalist, former air traffic controller, and long-time CFI.

0:16.2

Rob and I are now teaming up as co-hosts of a brand new podcast, NTSB News Talk. In each episode,

0:23.1

we take a close look at recent aircraft accidents and NTSB reports, unpack what really

0:28.1

happened, and highlight the lessons that every pilot can learn from. We cover everything from

0:33.0

poor decision-making and weather mishaps to equipment failures and risk. To start, we'll do the show every other week.

0:40.3

I think you're going to enjoy it, which is why I'm sharing episode one of NTSB News Talk

0:44.9

here in the Aviation News Talk feed.

0:47.5

If you like it, please subscribe or follow NTSB News Talk in your app so that you get

0:52.8

future episodes.

0:53.6

And since this is a brand new show, we really do need your feedback. NTSB News Talk in your app so that you get future episodes.

0:57.8

And since this is a brand new show, we really do need your feedback.

1:00.8

Please give us your advice on how to improve the show.

1:05.9

To do that, go to NTSBNewsTalk.com and click on contact at the top of the page.

1:07.4

Now here's episode one.

1:13.9

Welcome to NTSB News Talk, where we talk about agency news, recent accidents from the past few weeks, and about newly released NTSB preliminary and final reports. Then we do a deep dive

1:21.1

and analysis of one accident. This podcast is not affiliated with or endorsed by the National Transportation Safety Board.

1:29.6

It's a safe space where we don't discuss politics or religion.

1:33.3

Now here are your hosts, award-winning aviation journalist Rob Mark and Max Trescott, CFI, and author who's trained as an accident investigator.

1:43.2

Hey, Rob, how's it going? Hey, not too bad, my friend. How are you out on the

1:47.4

West Coast? Well, funny, you should ask. I was in the hospital. Two weeks ago for gallbladder surgery,

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