Hi friends, welcome back to the show.

My guest today is Charles Eisenstein.

He's a public speaker and author specializing in the ecology movement.

The climate debate is chaos.

Activists and skeptics can't talk to each other, and for every article suggesting one point

of view, there's another refuting it.

People are either malicious world killers or useful idiot jupes.

Today, expect to learn why the climate change debate is so difficult to navigate, why

it's supposedly impossible to find an impartial climate scientist.

Charles's suggestions for how to navigate this conversation while not losing your mind

and much more.

This episode actually got inspired by a comment on the YouTube channel by Peter saying,

when I hear someone that explains the climate change is real, it sounds comprehensible.

When I hear someone explain that climate change is not real, it also sounds comprehensible.

I really don't know what to think about this topic anymore.

Because I realized that after the episode with Patrick Moore neither did I.

So I figured that by bringing Charles on, he might be able to help me and you to navigate

through this incredibly messy world of climate when basically no one seems to be able to

agree about which points of view are accurate or false.

I definitely also feel a bit of an obligation to try and present both sides of an argument

or a balanced viewpoint from two different angles, but the problem with this is if I start

to do it for climate change then we have to do it for every time that someone comes on

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