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🗓️ 29 May 2025
⏱️ 106 minutes
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0:00.0 | Bert and I have a great core value. |
0:01.8 | We do not name call. |
0:03.2 | We do not curse at each other, and we do not defame character when we're fighting ever under any circumstances. |
0:07.8 | And we barely had to even lay that out as a ground rule. |
0:11.7 | It's just who we are. |
0:13.4 | So then when we hear other couples fight and do those things, we're like, appalling. |
0:19.3 | She called him what? |
0:24.0 | So divorced. |
0:26.0 | I'm not really interested in the drama, like the, not drama is the wrong word, |
0:30.6 | in the gossipy parts of why people divorce. |
0:33.1 | I think that we could talk about gossip all day. |
0:36.1 | I'm just not really interested in gossip because |
0:38.8 | it's usually one of a few stories, I mean, with different details, but the themes are the same. |
0:46.7 | I'm more interested in the process of like, when do you first go, huh, maybe this isn't working |
0:53.0 | for me? And then what does that process look like going forward all the way through when it, |
0:58.4 | when it breaks apart, all the way through to I'm feeling better now? |
1:02.0 | Like I'm interested in that process because that process is individual and I think universal, |
1:09.0 | right? |
1:09.7 | There's a, there's a course of grief that happens when you |
1:14.9 | lose a loved one, right? It's pretty somewhat predictable the stages of grief a person goes through. |
1:21.0 | I would imagine the stages of divorce have some kind of similar pattern or path. I know neither of you |
1:27.0 | are experts, |
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