#381 – Chris Lattner: Future of Programming and AI
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4.7 • 13K Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2023
⏱️ 218 minutes
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Chris's Website: http://nondot.org/sabre/
Mojo programming language: https://www.modular.com/mojo
Modular AI: https://modular.com/
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) - Introduction
(06:38) - Mojo programming language
(16:55) - Code indentation
(25:22) - The power of autotuning
(35:12) - Typed programming languages
(51:56) - Immutability
(1:04:14) - Distributed deployment
(1:38:41) - Mojo vs CPython
(1:54:30) - Guido van Rossum
(2:01:31) - Mojo vs PyTorch vs TensorFlow
(2:04:55) - Swift programming language
(2:10:27) - Julia programming language
(2:15:32) - Switching programming languages
(2:24:58) - Mojo playground
(2:29:48) - Jeremy Howard
(2:40:34) - Function overloading
(2:48:59) - Error vs Exception
(2:56:39) - Mojo roadmap
(3:09:41) - Building a company
(3:21:27) - ChatGPT
(3:27:50) - Danger of AI
(3:31:44) - Future of programming
(3:35:01) - Advice for young people
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The following is a conversation with Chris Ladner, his third time on this podcast. |
| 0:04.6 | As I've said many times before, he's one of the most brilliant engineers in modern computing. |
| 0:10.0 | Having created LLM compiler infrastructure project, the Klan compiler, the Swift programming language, |
| 0:16.0 | a lot of key contributions to TensorFlow and TPUs as part of Google. |
| 0:19.9 | He served as vice president of Autopilot Software at Tesla, was a software innovator and leader at Apple. |
| 0:27.1 | And now he co-created a new full stack AI infrastructure for distributed training, inference, |
| 0:33.7 | and deployment on all kinds of hardware called modular and a new programming language called Mojo. |
| 0:41.6 | That is a superset of Python giving you all the usability of Python but with the performance of |
| 0:47.0 | C C++. In many cases, Mojo code has demonstrated over 30,000 x speed up over Python. |
| 0:57.1 | If you love machine learning, if you love Python, you should definitely give Mojo a try. |
| 1:02.0 | This programming language, this new AI framework, and infrastructure, and this conversation with Chris |
| 1:09.0 | is mind blowing. I love it. It gets pretty technical at times, so I hope you hang on for the ride. |
| 1:17.8 | And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. |
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| 1:42.2 | And now onto the full ad reads, as always, no ads in the middle. I try to make this interesting, |
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