Dr. William Davis is a renowned preventive cardiologist and the best-selling

author of the groundbreaking number one The Eric Times Runaway Best

Cellar Wheat Belly. And today he's here to chat about his latest must-read

titled Super Gut. And we're going to go deep on everything from what we're

getting wrong about cardiovascular health, our microbiomes, SIBO, and more.

William, welcome.

Well, thank you. Glad to be here.

It is so great to have you. I read Wheat Belly about a decade ago and in that book,

as many of our listeners know, was a runaway runaway best-seller and had a

transformative effect for millions of people. I joke with you before the show,

you're largely responsible, better for worse for the grain-free and gluten-free

movement. I think I think for better. And so with all that said, I'm curious since it's 11

years, I think since Wheat Belly came out. What's the biggest change you've seen in terms of

the research in your findings in writing this new fantastic book, which everyone should pick up,

called Super Gut, around the consumption of grains and the unintended consequences. What I

think is so also fascinating, you're a cardiologist. People come to you for heart problems.

So what have you seen? What are the biggest changes you've seen in the past decade?

There have been some changes, Jason. They really have made the headlines.

Ironically, a lot of the focus on wheat and related grains as a detriment to human health came

from the psychiatric world. You may recall that some of the early observations were in

paranoid schizophrenia. That is, it was observed that paranoid schizophrenia,

so this was made in several studies, paranoid schizophrenia, which is a very

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