Hello, everyone watching and listening. Today I'm speaking with my friend Dr. Gad Sadd,

professor at Concordia University researcher podcaster, an author of the new book The Sad Truth

about happiness, eight secrets for leading the good life. I'm here with my friend today, Dr.

Gad Sadd. We've met a number of times. I got to say Dr. Sadd was one of the first and really

one of the few academics who supported me right at the beginning when I was embroiled in the first

round of controversy that enveloped me or that I stirred up or that our idiot government stirred

up, which is a more accurate description of the whole event. Gad was one of the first people who

had the courage or the hootspa, I guess that's the word, to interview me and to discuss my situation

with me and he played that very, very straight and I don't think it was obvious to him at all

at that point when he took that risk. He didn't know anything about me really. He could have easily

decided like so many people did that I was just fundamentally reprehensible and stayed on the

safe side of the fence, but I don't really think that's the sort of person he is and I think that's

become more and more evident over the ensuing months and years and so I want to thank you again

for that. It was a brave man and one of the things I learned in the last six or seven years is that

courage is a very, very rare virtue, much rarer than I even thought. I'd studied

totalitarian states for a long time and I knew that people were easily led into a state of

pathological silence, but I didn't understand how rapidly that could occur and how few people even

in a free society with a long history of freedom would be loathed to speak and how rapidly that

could occur. Then you do see people who stand up and say things that might get them in trouble and

some of them are just people who are unwise and who are willing to impulsively say what

comes to mind and then there are other people and they're much rarer who are thoughtful and who've

carefully considered what they have to say and are willing to say it anyways and you fell into

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