All the Empire Podcasts this week, we are born to chat with Blinder by Light Director

Grinder Chatter and her star of Effect Caluera, which is Boss, the Boss, Bruce Springst,

anyway, all that and usual movie news and nonsense on the movie podcast is going to

race through this week's episode because it has a bust to cast to Liverpool. I'm going

to say movie podcasts that mean specifically me. Hello, pod, I'm Chris Eud and welcome

to the Empire Podcast. This week, we're joined by two count them two colleagues of such

lethal cunning. I'm looking straight at our geek queen.

Yeah, Death Star. What's a Death Star? Well, more of a friendly glance.

It's more of a like bodily harm stare at least. What's along because you can, oh, and

they've introduced you. Hell in a harrow is here. Hello. How are you?

I'm good. Thank you. And we're also joined by James Dyer. Hi, Chris. How are you, James?

I am okay. Thanks. You have sat directly to my right. So I can't look at both of you

at the same time. In the same way that dogs can't look up. You can't look right.

It's just like a tactical thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's a power move. It's giving my toes.

Yeah. You've seen Jurassic Park, right? That's it. You've fine-given me about

girlfriends. What's the longest you can stare? I don't know, but let's not find out. We

don't have time today to do staring contests. Chris, I'm, I don't, you say that.

And I know I said at the beginning, I have a hard out. I have to be out of here in 50 minutes.

And that's tough for us. It's very tough. We don't do tight 50. We always say it'll be

a tight 45. It's usually 95. It's closer to hours than minutes. Usually when we say that.

But I think you've hit upon a fascinating thing. Does a staring contest work on an audio

medium? James? I think we're saying no. I'm staring into your soul. See, there's a gaping,

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